@approxinfinity I do agree that injuries did hurt us at PG. but we also had Zeke who at times did bring the ball up and Diggy. I said the last two seasons we donāt advance outta the first weekend with them two playing 30 minutes a game. I was a million percent correct period end of discussion. I told repeatedly about how great Juan was several by posters. Excuses are like assholes, everyone has them. We didnāt use common sense roster construction the last two seasons and it bit our asses period.
@rcjhdraft right sometimes I hate myself for being right so damn often believe @Texas-Hawk-10 and I were the only ones worried about giving up Zuby and Udeh for Hunter. Iāve been full of shit about Juan and KJ playing too much to everyone on this site but yet it turned out exactly as I said it would againā¦
Zuby finished the with 23 points and 12 rebounds. He played great the St John guards couldnāt hit the ground with their hat in 3 tries. He had almost the exact same output of KJ and Hunt combined against the same team. Thats a huge ouch man
@rcjhdraft there is a good chance Elmarko by mid season is better than Juan has ever been. Iām a little concerned coming of the injury for sure but Juan hasnāt improved. His stat are identical in most categories, struggles to get to paint and keep guys out of the paint. Was the same thing he had trouble with the first time he played. Anyone that says otherwise is a bold face liar or blind.
@rcjhdraft said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
@rcjhdraft pretty much is the consensus on X no heart, no energy, no loyalty and no athleticism in regards to our team this season
Somehow this game has made me even more mad about this season. I have zero love for any of the seniors
Ya Iām pissed because of our seniors could make a simple pass we are playing right now. Prob donāt win without KJ but still Juan, Hunter and Zeke have turned the ball over repeatedly with the game on the line. Thatās unacceptable for guys with their experience level.
Well looks like Arkansas is gonna advance smh
@BShark said in Self Rumor:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Self Rumor:
A lot of KU fans wanted Coach fired.
Idiots! And thankfully it won't happen...
I want him fired if we lose first round again next season that would mean 1 trip outside of the first weekend in an 8 year span. Dook, UK, UNC and UConn would all fire coaches for such.
Iāll take shit that wonāt ever happen for $500 Alex
@rcjhdraft pretty much is the consensus on X no heart, no energy, no loyalty and no athleticism in regards to our team this season
There we go Zuby with a big dunk, 12 points already
@rcjhdraft said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
These seniors blew a very possible sweet 16 path
Right on paper we are much better shooting team than Arkansas and we match up well with St Johnās who doesnāt guard the line well.
Iām disappointed because I honestly thought if we could get past Arkansas we couldāve beaten this team. Obviously KJ being injured late we probably wouldnāt have a good shot
@approxinfinity the way he running the floor and everywhere right now missed that like KJ but with size
Zuby man we missed on him
@approxinfinity https://www.facebook.com/share/r/165b3FpHAB/?mibextid=wwXIfr ā
I like stuff like this accountability and toughness šŖ.
@approxinfinity haha thats funny to be honest I just hate Cal as much as anything but Arkansas is has more size and athleticism than just about every team St. John has faced this season.
Jamari Traylor joins the list of former Jayhawks to call out this team. Nice to see a lot of basketball people are with me.
Jalil Bethea from Miami just enter the portal, heās a guy Iād like to get.
I wish them well but none of them were great basketball players. Iām more than ready for the next chapter. Hunt definitely disappointed in the Arkansas game but so did Juan for much of it. Both had a couple of back breaking turnovers late. KJ was one strong dude that never developed into a great ball player. Hunt actually led the team both this year and last in -/+ and still think he is much more successful with 4 guards around him that could do something with the ball as Doke did in 2018. I know itās not popular but Iāve never been more disappointed in a senior campaign than Juanās between bricking free throws late in Ames and against Houston at home. Seems like about twice a game he leaves his feet and throws the ball away. I could write a book about the holes in his game. I hope he does well in his next chapter but he is my least favorite 4+ year player since I started following Hawk basketball 30 some odd years ago.
@SlimShaddy54 Hanni is a great guy but canāt stand his voice most the time
@nuleafjhawk For sure back before you had the delay on network TV you could do that. Makes me miss the old days of a competitive team even more
Just when you thought Jayhawk nation had taken enough hits this seasonā¦.. Bob was an absolute legend easily one of the best radio commentators in recorded history. I miss the calls with him and Max every single time I turn on the game.
@SlimShaddy54 his wife is Cindy, one of the most courageous things he could do is walk away from Kansas Basketball IMO. He was great for a time no questions, not willing to give up his 2 big philosophy and learn how to construct a roster doomed him.
@SlimShaddy54 oh theyāll never fire him and there are rumors of retirement very soon. Iām just saying he should be fired without a second thought if next season mirrors the last 2.
@wissox I donāt care about what he has done years ago, itās about not ruining this program at this point. If we have yet another year like this next season are you gonna say the same? He was great one timeā¦. So thatās means little to what has happened the past two seasons and what can happen going forward. Blind loyalty shouldnāt outweigh common sense thinking because in the end you lose. If Bill Self loses the opening weekend next season he should no longer be the head coach at the university of Kansas
@wissox I think heās one of the most underrated coaches around but I also liked Huggins even tho most on here hated him. I like the hard nose guys and wish Self would get back to a little of that.
@SlimShaddy54 KJ always gave it his all if he was in someone elseās body heās a an all American
Pretty good game with Baylor and Mississippi state right now. After watching us last night itās just crazy to see how much more hustle most teams have than us. Both teams have 5 guys running, crashing the boards and getting after loose balls. Outside of KJ it never really happened for guys with Kansas on their chest.
@Jhawk69 in a perfect world you have a little both but yes we need some HS kids they will stay and develop. Iām
Hoping Flory and Passmore are two of those guys. At least for a few years, flory maybe in the nba next summer
Iām going with St. Johnās, Iāve always liked Pitino as a coach and it would be cool to see them pound Cal into the earth Saturday
@BigBad I hope he actually embraces the portal and uses it to fill needs instead of trying to build around players that shouldnāt be starting at Kansas. Iāve been told by several inside sources Bill is retiring for sure within the next two seasons. I hate to fire a legend but you can only live off of yesterdayās success so long. At this point he is running this program into the earth at a rapid pace.
Itās just like I posted above, the last two years Iāve been screaming we canāt win playing KJ and Juan 30 minutes a game. Itās a pretty obvious assessment for anyone that knows anything about basketball. The logical conclusion is Bill felt sorry for them because of their personal struggles and rode with them anyways.
@BigBad the more I think about it, the more I think the game has passed Bill by. We all knew this wouldnāt work and as you said no shooters and it was obvious. Why couldnāt he see it?
So at this point I have to ask is Cal a better coach than Bill? Just beat us with a 13 loss team while not having one of their best players.
@Jhawk69 a 100% correct sir. Just sitting thinking of bad we were this past season in football and basketball in the final few minutes of a half. Itās astonishingly bad and crazy at the same time. If either team finish games we would have been much more successful.
@dylans said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@approxinfinity Is it better to be a star for St Johnās or KU? Asking for a friend.
Unfortunately right now it maybe St. Johnās, they have better coaching and are playing in the big city
Iām struggling this morning friends, 3 teams in NCAA basketball since the Ap poll released have been preseason number one and not won a tournament game. Kansas 05, UNC and us this season.
@approxinfinity said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@dylans I dont know man. Hard to argue that Zuby made the wrong choice right now.
Zuby may win a national championship, hard to argue with him leaving at this point.
@dylans I liked switching in the zone and agree you should always have something in your back pocket that teams donāt have a lot of film on in the tournament.
@TYOHawk said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Hate KJ got hurt.
We arenāt talented enough and thatās on the staff. The old Self wouldāve recruited over a few of these guys. The new Self just tells us how much theyāre winners while we get our tails kicked by any team with some decent talent.
Being real with whom we had this season itās very true. Iām gonna give self some credit here because idk if a lot coaches get this group to the tournament tho I disagree with a lot of his coaching this season.
Juan- doesnāt start at any other school in the B12
Zeke- a top 10 3 point shooting season in ku history but lacks defense and creating his owe shot.
Rylen- spot up shooter that was too scared to shoot, basically Timberlake 2.0. Wasnāt good without NBA caliber teammates.
KJ- heart breaks he got hurt but he isnāt starting at the 4 at any B12 school.
Hunt- has cement shoes, couldnāt guard a soul and was just too inconsistent. Half of his missed layups are dunks for centers with athletic ability.
Diggy- not a D1 player IMO but at least plays hard.
Flory- just needs strength and experience
AJ- seems to not give a rats ass about anything. Couldāve played his way into a draft pick with his size and athleticism. Same guy that was on/off at Wisconsin and St John. What could have been if Bill didnāt ride Rylanās coat tails the last 2 months.
Shak-couldnāt stay healthy tho I thought when he as healthy, it was as good or better than Juan
I gotta say Iām shocked @kuballin10 isnāt here blowing his cork. Prob too busy helicoptering himself
@rockchalkjayhawk thatās the saddest part we really won every stat category besides turnovers. The only other thing that stands out to me is Juan 4-11 from the floor and Hunt 4-13. Most of those shots they took were good looks too. Think Hunt had a few bad 3s other than that both guys had shots you have to make in March. Juan had a couple drives that he avoided contact for a circus shot when he likely gets free throws. The only other question to me is why Zeke didnāt get more looks, been begging for an elevator screen type play for him all season 4/5 from distance, the other guys failed getting him the rock. Anyone have the plus/minus for this one?
Goodness Tech gonna fart around and get beat.
@bskeet seemed to be a lot more blowouts than usual on day one. Only real upsets have been McNeese and Drake which I actually picked in the one bracket I filed out this season.
The biggest issue I have right now- Tang is 3-3 vs Bill Self and has more NCAAs tournament than Self since he got to Manhattan. Of all the streaks this team destroyed, that is the most unacceptable stat in Kansas basketball history.
@SlimShaddy54 anyone that doesnāt feel terrible for the way it ended for KJ should have their ass whipped especially the ones calling themselves KU fans. KJ gave this place his whole heart and Iād donāt think anyone logical would disagree. I sure as hell wish he was out there at the end. Just as much as I wished he developed into a great player. Iāll miss his dunks and fist pumping. I place a lot of the blame on Self for the position he put him in. Thatās a Mitch Lightfoot fan favorite if he was put in the position to succeed at this place. As much as I like guys like him and Juando as people and hope they succeed in lifee, they shouldāve never been starters getting primo minutes at Kansas. They aint starting at most power schools right now.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Small consolation is the dirty slavers are about lose as well to Drake.
I considered buying tickets to boo them in Wichita but they have 3 Kansas kids on their roster a couple weeks really missed on.
We must Keep Flory and gets some guards that aināt scared to put the ball on the floor
Well friends thats it the worst year in 42 seasons. I hate the way we lost it, seniors throwing the ball away. I hate that KJ got hurt when we had a 3 point lead. Juando was great for about 7 minutes and completely useless the other minutes he was on the floor. Finished his career 2-3 in NCAA games without having a back up capable of starting like Remy sorry thatās the worst PG in the Self era. Great kid but so glad to never watch him play again. Gonna have nightmares about his turnovers late and unwillingness to push the ball when he had the chance dozens of times.
@nuleafjhawk said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@kjayhawks I don't think he's hurt. I think he just didn't want to be on the court with those other weenies
We was up by 3 when he left, didnāt have much to do with Zeke forgetting how to dribble and Juan throwing away the ball