@kjayhawks You and me bothā¦..sawwwfffttt spots for d2 and kj. Plus Billās philosophy is still stuck in the 90ās with how he defends and offensively what he thinks is the perfect scheme
@kjayhawks I feel like thereās three starting spots locked in with Juan, kj and Hunterā¦..I doubt Self removes him from the starting lineup
@BShark Hey maybe my eyes arenāt as bad as you all say!
Iāll know Bill has fully looked in the mirror when he realizes the ceiling d2 puts on any team where heās the starting pg playing even 30 mpg
@Texas-Hawk-10 Hope he picks up defensive positioning and the offense quick enough that he doesnāt get the quick hook all year
Should be the starting pg
Great topic and very relevant. The assistants are bills good ole boys club. Guys he keeps around because he trusts not because they are the best coaches or have the best eye for talent.
@AsadZ Hurley as a person is a jerk but gotta respect his maturity to review his philosophy and adjust it to have better success in this form of college bball
I donāt think so on the vengeance I think if we get bounced early again next year he will look to retire faulting the portal and how it all works as a reason he couldnāt be consistent (ignoring how other programs leverage it and are being successful)
@Texas-Hawk-10 Cryer was never coming here he returned home to play with his good friend from growing upā¦.
@AsadZ Nah afh is the greatest home court advantage on earth
It masks a lot of deficiencies
Uconn so maybe Bill will review what they did these last two years and learn a thing or two. Saawwwffttt stubborn mule promising players minutes and doing the opposite of taking this program to a whole other level.
The big 12 was not good this year and we finished literally middle of the packā¦.another round of 32 not loss but absolute blowout. Donāt worry though we will run it back with 4 of this years starters
@approxinfinity Both interested here but weād already promised 4 spot minutes to a 6-5 center
Just like many ball dominated guards but we end up with Timby, Marcus Adamās and then furphy with no stud 2 coming except the guy only DePaul wanted which says plenty
Billās pets is killing billās recruiting. Any wright can claim he has a fire lit after this year bs Iāll believe it when I see it. This year we were supposed to level upā¦dude road his pets to a 6th place big 12 finish and another round of 32ā¦20 point blowout
@PharmacyHawk You quoting seed and Iām quoting round we got knocked out 4/5 years (32)ā¦..
Itās like being ranked pre season number 1 this year howād that turn out?
Bill and his d2 pg who almost lost the title stepping ob on an inbounds play
Billās eye for talent is waning. He keeps repeating the best pure pg in America as if to convince himself these daysā¦.
@FarmerJayhawk No reason to trust the scouting eyes we got
Last 3/5 years weāve gotten blown out in 2nd roundā¦.Selfās roster construction has sucked for years. Got lucky remy saved him from the same against creighton AND providence
@BeddieKU23 He needs to go. Let him go back home and get a legit guard in his place
Ball screen on d2 over and over again and he canāt even remotely recover on his man
zags are pressuring d2ā¦going under every screen and back in his hip pocket immediately and he wilts because he canāt create separation or hit a 3 (he doesnāt even look) or hit a step back jumper or anything besides a set shot.
Dude has the offensive skills of d2 but thatās offensive to many d2 guys heās probably more naia. His rare fancy layups wows the crowd but the rest of his struggles go unnoticed
@FarmerJayhawk enjoying what I saw in November sure but if after never winning a meaningful road game people couldnāt see it thatās just stupidity
Our offense even if you replace KJ will not be fixed because of the liability running the show. We go into every game at a disadvantage with the most important position on the court
Getting destroyed after hearing all the off season talk about ālevel upā is comically bad.
All bark no bite coach is just like his favorite pure pg
@FarmerJayhawk Nah this freaking sucks. We have a pg who teams dare to shot 15 times a game and go under every screen and our coach thinks he walks on water.
This is unacceptable and unfathomable. I was unaware this is kids rec league where you canāt replace a poor player with a better one.
D2 captains the worst offensive teams and big 12 finish yet heās the best pure pg in America. Bills an idiot spewing that garbageā¦..he and d2 are getting owned today with this offensive output.
@FarmerJayhawk every team has this letās not make excuses for our lack of offensive ability all year showing up.
We have 1 game against samdord and a half against Gonzaga and donāt just think we are this offensive juggernaut
@jayballer67 Making my March re appearance to say this was expected.
Gonna happen against next year. With D2 at pg our ceiling is sweet sixteen. Wonāt have 3 nba studs around him.
Ready for 2026ā¦..proof is in fans talking about how disinterested they are along with open seats for no poor big 12 teams weād play at home. That never happened with Frank or Devonte
Switching screens aināt working
@DanR their are triple teaming him
Was only a matter of time their 3ās started falling and we choke offensively
Elmarko can transfer
Canāt shoot and horrible handles
Get another stud in the portal with his scholly
Making shots so we look good right now
So sloppy handling it though
We are gonna go on a 3-5 minute scoring drought this half or next and they will come roaring back
@Texas-Hawk-10 When Self is done I want nothing to do with Bennett and have said that for years when his name was randomly brought up.
They had the luckiest title they stole from Tech.
His basketball philosophy is atrocious as he slows the game down which only brings inferior opponents into play. Itās like a football team running the ball a lot to burn clock and minimize possessionsā¦same thing with Bennett.
Heās more well know for the first ever 16 seed loss than the fluke title.
Nice guy but horrible ball coach
I guess my stance would be why does being a previous years starter on the 6th best big 12 team mean you have a guaranteed spot for next year?
If no spot is guaranteed to new recruits why is it guaranteed to guys in the program. Just because you are in the program a year prior shouldnāt mean you get the nod automatically.
@MR11 Does this only apply to incoming recruits or current players in the program? We have two that are absolutely cemented for next year so curious your post with regards to that.
If we get lucky to get by Sanfordā¦..Mcneese st might beat us by 20 #levelup
You guys can be homers to this and drink the tea coming out of Naismith drive but it is Ingram all over again.
We can play mcneely and furphy next to each other and still have the stud 2 guard portal pickup.
Why on earth would we be lacking minutes for himā¦.hmm letās think for two seconds here who plays the 4 spot that Iāve said is GUARANTEED to start next year
U guys are blind to how Self works
@Gorilla72 Guards win in Marchā¦see big 12 and big east title games.
We arenāt looking at any starting pgās because in Billās mind we have the best pg in America. Iāve read many other posters on this site and especially the other site that are the most disinterested in next year because who is at that spot.
Pretty frustrating when the coach who supposedly never guarantees starter minutes has two guys that are absolutely untouchable (especially Juan next year).
Juan is the 6/7th best pg in the big 12 and thatās proven to be who we are even with TWO all Americans around him.
@TYOHawk Will be funny to see the spacing if we have those two plus Hunter but pair them with KJ and Juan⦠causing screenshots of teams still not guarding those two so passing lanes, driving lanes and the ability to maneuver is yet again in shambles
@approxinfinity said in Short Handed Hawks vs Cincy Game Thread:
@kuballin10 why arent you dogging Elmarko? Kid can't shoot the 3 ball, or dogging Nick? Clearly underwhelming. Or bitch about Self recruiting a rapist that has made exactly zero threes for KU. Juan is better than all those guys. You're barking up the wrong tree.
Greta questions letās dive in.
Elmarko has played organized ball for what 3-4 years he wasnāt to be relied on as some come in and dominate Wiggins type.
Nick - staff whiffed and he is bad.
Morris - On self
Two of the three suck because guards know the pg spot is untouchable itās the reason we canāt get anyone worth their salt.
The reason I dog Juan is because itās his team heās the senior he knows the system heās supposed to step up and score 12 ppg and LEAD the team.
Itās the expectation for every KU pg whoās jr or sr here!!! Why does Bill and you and the entire fan base excuse it or not replace him with a better pg???
I couldnāt fathom Dotson not scoring and everyone was cool with it and instead blaming our bench for not picking up a starters production.
What about Mason or Graham did we blame the bench as to why Mason or Graham didnāt lead successful teams? No, cause they took the reins and scored.
This whole crux of the bench needs to step up is asinine. The top 5 guys all have to be a threat to score and look to score.
We got a Sr pg who itās his time and he canāt cut it and we got an entire year with him doing this crap all over again
@Jayblaze said in Who would you keep for next year?:
Like, I don't merely want the Hawks to win it all; I want KJ and Juan to win it all, lol.
They did already!
KJ played 3-5 minutes total in the tourney and Juan rode the bench from about the 16 minute on in the second half of the title and every crucial run in games against creighton and providence.
Because we wonāt recruit better guards u will not see them win a title. If Juan is our starting pg there is zero chance. No player of remyās caliber is coming to sit behind him and be the 6th man.
How all that came together is such luck for Self and he canāt even acknowledge it correctly. Self thinks he was some mastermind and proof Juan is good. Hey Bill you and the staff suck at talent evaluation lately even with having the portal to view guys whoāve played college ball.
You also suck at utilizing your players best abilities!
Kj inverted high low with Hunter
Hunter shooting the 3 at the top of the key with confidence
Juan needs to shoot the 3 Iāve begged it all year
Jamari getting a leash
@TYOHawk said in Short Handed Hawks vs Cincy Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in Short Handed Hawks vs Cincy Game Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 Comment I referenced was with Hanni postgame which isnāt the media and espn+ā¦.I wasnāt lying
@TYOHawk - I just donāt get it. His protection of said player over and over when heās been atrocious in his senior year and not āscored when he wants toāā¦.is just proving what recruits see that Bill plays favorites.
The 1 is locked in for next year and so is the 4ā¦.there will be a reason we miss on big time recruits at those positions yet againā¦ā¦
Coach told us the guys around Juan have to be better. Which is 100 percent true. But if youāre only serviceable when you play next to pro wings and all conference bigsā¦then how good are you truly?
The constant defending and pushing the blame on other players just shows Bills true colors. It is literally never Juanās fault in Bills mind.
@kjayhawks Juan is literally propped up by team accomplishments and billās absolute blindness to his actual abilities is what has brought the team to this low level.
KJ actually can contribute he showed that last night. He can be a Royce white point forward type when given the leash. Whether 6th man off the bench or what he has a clear role with our squad.
I said it earlier and was called negative ect and it is literally playing out exactly as expected. Juan is not a good player at the D1 level. He would be a great backup but the fact our coach thinks heās the best pg in America is comically bad.
This all hurts recruiting when it comes to guards and guards are what win titles. You need more good guardsā¦u can get away with only having 1 legit big.
Bill has lost it
@RockkChalkk said in Short Handed Hawks vs Cincy Game Thread:
Hope this offseason all positions are recruited and no position is safe.
Iām laughing because you and I know that wonāt happenā¦ā¦you guys have watched his career and Selfās protection of him for half a decade and you think just magically Self is gonna recruit a pg to start over Juanā¦.hecckkkkk no.
It will be a āyou can start at the 2 next to Juanāā¦just ask LJ Cryer
@Crimsonorblue22 Comment I referenced was with Hanni postgame which isnāt the media and espn+ā¦.I wasnāt lying
@TYOHawk - I just donāt get it. His protection of said player over and over when heās been atrocious in his senior year and not āscored when he wants toāā¦.is just proving what recruits see that Bill plays favorites.
The 1 is locked in for next year and so is the 4ā¦.there will be a reason we miss on big time recruits at those positions yet againā¦ā¦
āJuan needs players around him and tonight we didnāt have thatā - Self just now in postgame. Goes on to list shooting stats of everyone but Juan.
From the other board and 100% trueā¦Juan canāt score āwhen he wants tooā glad @BShark finally canāt argue anymore on this
Bill is a genius but on this player opinion he is 100% wrong and an idiot
@rcjhdraft Hope he can play pg!
@Texas-Hawk-10 It is because our multi million dollar coach thinks his d2 athlete pg is the greatest gift to KU pgās. It is such a befuddling scout that I canāt shut up about it
@Texas-Hawk-10 Morris wouldnāt makeup for this mess
Please donāt insult Mccullar by saying juan is on his level
Everyone watched the game and our best player was clearly evidentā¦..and it sure as hell wasnāt Juan but yeah gotta replace the4
@approxinfinity Until we look for a legit score first pg in the portal we could have Lebron walk through the door and it aināt gonna matter
Thatās why this is frustrating. The light is at the end of not this year but legitimately next year.
Bill did all this talking about taking the program to another level and he didā¦to the depths of his career at KU
@approxinfinity said in Short Handed Hawks vs Cincy Game Thread:
So is Liam McNeesons Batman?
We need some dogsā¦hope he comes on down and hunts his shot
@approxinfinity Sr leader with 4 turnovers 6 points and shot 1 three as defenders go under OVER AND OVER
Stockton or whoever would drill triple after triple to make defenders guard you
Need to have the dream team around him to succeed but heās the best true pg in America whatever the hell Bill thinks that is heās getting what his awful scouting deserves. Dude watches Juan play more ball than anyone and thinks heās the team leader.
Juan has zero reason not to score 15-20 tonight and heās just flat out not good. It is depressing because we got 1 more year wasting talent because heās a great story (which he is dudeās had it hard) but this aināt feel good itās Kansas and I thought we were leveling up.
Well we arenāt at the 1 thatās for sureā¦just asinine
@RockChalkinTexas said in Short Handed Hawks vs Cincy Game Thread:
Shit Juan
Heās digressed in his time at KUā¦.but donāt let blind Bill know
@rcjhdraft said in Short Handed Hawks vs Cincy Game Thread:
dajuan best pg in america lmao
Donāt worry we got another year of thisā¦.cant wait!
But he won a title (team accomplishment) yet we ignore this team that heās the sr pg leader
@kjayhawks Lol and I thought I was over the top.
Staff shake up would be nice with some new blood and new ideas on both O and D but u donāt fire HOF just cause he had a down year.
Would be just like Bill to land some stud portal 2 guard and roll with Juan, KJ and Hunt back out there and win a title (like after we got smacked by usc and then came back the next year to win it all). Key is a remy type player and sitting Juan. The portal 2 guard will get unlimited shots and need to create when a play breaks down or shot clock is running out.
If Drew miraculously leaves Baylor man what Iād give to pull Nunn and Langston up here but wonāt happen because both wouldnāt start cause neither are āthe best pure pg in americaā geez heās so homer blind itās like a high school kid in love when every friend tells them dude she treats u like trash and isnāt all that but they just canāt see it