@wissox Not sure he actually stomped on him. Here is a still. His foot is going to the floor.
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I think his lifting his knee before Wisc #2 gets in the way looks like he is preparing to stomp, but when #2 is gone the foot is not on the W guy. The flex may have been pulling it back to avoid him, which is why he ends up tripping.
@Jethro That article is likely being passed around New Mexico State U's AD with a few "Thank you, Alabama, for making us look more ethical than someone."
We who are also Chiefs fans have been soooooooo spoiled for a few years!
Even if Dick is not a lottery pick he will in all likelihood be a 1st rd selection. That=guaranteed contract.
The chances of getting hurt in his rookie year are irrelevant. Getting hurt as a KU soph could destroy his career. I hate it, but leaving is a no-brainer, especially with the NCAA trying to figure out how to take over the NIL crap. (We know the NCAA changing anything is always with the goal of maximizing their own revenues. Players' NIL could be severely reduced pending time-consuming judicial decisions otherwise.)
@wissox When there are over 1,000 posts, there are bound to be a few random digressions!
@Jethro We need a laugh emoji button!
Well, Miller's attorney's statement is pretty specific. Interesting...they usually just say their client is innocent and they look forward to all the "true" facts coming out. He denies Miller ever touched the gun. Will be pretty damning if they have prints or something. From The Athletic:
“Brandon never got out of his vehicle or interacted with anyone in Ms. Harris’ party,” Jim Standridge said Wednesday. “He was never involved in a verbal altercation with Cedric Johnson or Mr. Davis. Brandon never touched the gun, was not involved in its exchange to Mr. Davis in any way, and never knew that illegal activity involving the gun would occur.”
@Eric-san He could easily change his stance "based on new information." Flacks do that all the time.
@Jethro I was listening hard for anything that would unhinge our fanbase, but thought he sounded quite complimentary. Said more things about Wilson doing great this year than he did about him shooting poorly. Was expecting to cringe more!
In my experience, aiding and abetting requires a specific intent to assist the commission of a crime. The facts as related may not support that level of knowledge.
There could be evidence that Miller either had knowledge, or should have had that knowledge, that he was bringing a gun into a dangerous situation, which might be a basis for a negligent homicide or manslaughter charge if Alabama law has that.
From the DA's stmts, it appears that Alabama, like many states, is very protective of gun possession and transfer rights. Many people want more laws enforcing responsible storage and caution about transferring weapons. But any such laws ain't gonna pass the scrutiny of today's Supreme Court, whose test is whether any such controls were in effect when the 2nd Amendment was adopted. In 1791.
@approxinfinity I suppose our first round losses in 2005 and 2006 were good, as were our several 2nd round losses to underdogs (seeded 5 spots or lower) under Larry, Roy and Bill?
@stoptheflop said in What was that? "MOJO TRANSFER!":
Your great analysis reminds me of our old friend jaybate.
Like jaybate but I didn't have to consult a dictionary or encyclopedia!
@Texas-Hawk-10 You can't win this argument any more than you can convince a Mizzou or KSU fan that Self isn't a cheater or an Eagles or Bengals fan that their players should not be alliwed to commit penalties just because it is the end of the game.
Fandom does really strange things to people, whether sports or politics. The hate-K cult is so entrenched that they believe he had mystical powers over referees, just like Reid does over Goodell.
He did great at times, he did poorly at times. A Tale of Two Dukes.
@Zabudda said in Father Bill vs his Large Adult Son Game Thread:
We had plenty of good looks. Now a 50 point half is our only hope and that gets us to 81. If they get 36 it's a win. A double digit run starts it off.
Very prescient, but 26 is better!
@BeddieKU23 Is that Manute Bol's son? A different life from Dad...who had to hunt and spear a lion as a rite to manhood, IIRC.
Edit: Not related. Damn.
Maybe Beard can be the new coach at NMSU. Could probably teach the kids how to skate.
@Jethro Be careful what you wish for. I want nothing to do with Purdue!
@Crimsonorblue22 I saw you read that as I was editing. A couple more things if you want to look at it again.
@Crimsonorblue22 No, sorry about the confusion. I was discussing citizen's arrest generally just as an example where a private person detaining another person is lawful because they are catching a criminal, not in the context of the hazing here where the victim/s apparently were kept from escaping by their assailants. In a case like this unlawful imprisonment may be very means-specific like Dan said (taping someone down), but usually is charged where someone is forcibly kept in a locked room or house.
Just to bring up more of the crap we used to deal with in criminal law, kidnapping involves taking someone unlawfully, whereas unlawful imprisonment involves restraining somebody from leaving, but they are often both charged because there isn't a bright line separating the two.
It isn't just being tied up or handcuffed. It is triggered by forcibly not allowing someone to leave. I have heard of kids filing complaints about being unlawfully imprisoned, but courts give great leeway to parents confining their children within reason. E.g., you can't lock a kid in a room with no way to safely get out in case of fire or accident, and you cannot leave them in a locked room while you go away. You can restrict them (grounding).
@nuleafjhawk I wonder if players will hesitate before they hit a receiver because they want a fumble recovery rather than a mere pass breakup.
@kjayhawks In a way it is like taking a charge: the ball can move but still he in control just like the defender is not required to be absolutely set. Think of the holder on a FG when he spins the ball. He has control even if it is moving.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in New Mexico State Situation:
@Kcmatt7 what does false imprisonment mean?
Usually means not letting someone leave without legal authority or just cause. (A citizen's arrest, for example, gives you authority to detain someone, but you had damn well better be right and do it properly!)
@jayballer67 Sometimes hazing is intended to create team bonding but that only works when everybody goes through the same thing, and, of course, if it is actually voluntary and basically harmless (like making new guys streak an opponent's campus). Coaches have been known, however, to use hazing as a way to use players to drive someone off the team. That just gets sick.
@nuleafjhawk In your example, if the guy dropped immediately and lost the ball, that would be incomplete. Dropping immediately to the ground while holding on = completed catch and a tackle.
@stoptheflop I think it isn't 2 steps...it is 2 feet down (they can be down when the ball is caught, but steps are more likely) and a football move (unless the player is falling to the ground and then the requirement is to retain possession). That can be a step which is often called a 3rd step but should be called a 3rd foot down (which is awkwsrd--sounds like canine ball). The move could also be a twist to avert a hit, or immediately lateralling the ball, I think. Here, he was hit immediately on control. For once our tacklers got there quickly.. too quickly.
Henne retired after the game. Shane, you're up!
No Dave Bliss connection?
I think Eagles might have fallen victim to reading all the accolades about how good they are. I think the Chiefs did this 2 years ago vs TB and weren't prepared.
There are even articles in Philly (and nowhere else) that give the coaching edge to Philly because he is a fresh thinker whose decisions this year are smarter than everyone else, including Reid. God, I love sports myopia!
The ACC has admitted the bad call.
But we need to clarify this bullshit about it being the first time the refs have screwed Duke into a loss. This is a highly respected research university so I believe their data on this must be highly reliable: they have over 900 losses, therefore according to every Dookie over 900 screw jobs.
@BShark The shooting apparently involved a guy from NMSU who allegedly was lured to the dorm room of a UNM player he had had a fight with at a football game. The UNM guy shot the NMSU guy in the leg and the NMSU guy then drew his own gun and killed the other guy.
This was months ago. No charges were filed. The suspension press release moade a specific statement that it was not due in any way to the "incident in Albuquerque" (the shooting).
I read a long thread of comments on a New Mexico website. The blatant racism on that thread, not objected to by anybody, was appalling. Apparently only 1 NMSU player is from NM, and the board just bashed all the "urban" players from elsewhere who come for easy money, to party, and get laid or into fights.
@BeddieKU23 Well, remember they are the same fans who turned on every coach eventually.
@dylans Thank you for that! My wife, after going into a coughing fit caused by 5 minutes of laughing, decided to remind me that (1) I'm not Catholic, and (2) I'm already married.
Gotta love Eamonn Brennan of The Athletic. He got sick of trying to put the Big 12 in order when they consistently "beat each other to an unrecognizable pulp" so he just grouped our top 6 into a tie for 7th in his power rankings. He calls it a Big 12 subset.
(I wish The Athletic would recognize how often I recommend subscribing!)
@kjayhawks When I was in KC we always seemed to have freezing rain the most. Fun times!
@kjayhawks Well, since it has been a cold winter they have probably been walking to the campus in 5' of snow, uphill both ways, wearing burlap bags around their feet. Like the guys my grandfather talked about as being tough "back in his day."
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other games:
it’s something a QB can play through
Jack Youngblood found Mahomes' toughness a bit more exceptional than you did...pretty much unique in Jack's eyes.
I am trying to remember another time a QB excelled on a high ankle sprain, but maybe you have seen it more than I have.
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@RockkChalkk said in KJ Adams:
Do these pay to read articles usually get released from behind the pay wall eventually? How long does it normally take?
I have said it before but I don't mind beating it into everyone's heads over and over...a subscription to The Athletic is one of the best things a sports fan can do. Reminds me of 1970-1995 Sports Illustrated in the feature articles, and The Sporting News of the 1980's.
@BeddieKU23 said in Other games:
High ankle sprain seems to be taking a while to heal.
Tells you even more about Mahomes, eh?
@approxinfinity Board Rats! Who can figure them out? 😁
Pettiford chose Auburn. Would have been too confusing anyway.
Incidentally, FWIW, this was a proper application of what is known as "sour grapes."
This game is over.
RIP, Billy.
No blood no foul!
If they live, no foul!
I like all of these. Until they foul us.
@Crimsonorblue22 I don't blame you. I am diabetic but no apparent heightened severity for me. Just a strong cold without the descent deep into my chest I have occasionally had since my teens. Hot steam helped clear congestion. Went through a few hundred Kleenex. Hoping for no relapse!
@Crimsonorblue22 Covid finally caught us. Symptoms tough for 3 days each (no breathing issues, fortunately). Getting better but I was kind of scared because my wife got a migraine at the beginning and couldn't keep anything down for about 36 hrs. Almost took her to ER for IV fluids on Friday but she started back to normal. Tire easily but have been walking the dog slowly 2x per day (lots of open space so not near anyone).
Can't imagine how miserable people have felt who got it worse!
@jayballer67 I think that is correct. It is also true of the ACC, where if you look at Duke and UNC they also have a few on the ACC Network.
The big difference is that ESPN+ is a separate access payment, whereas in ACC territory (and much of the country) the ACC Network is part of the cable package.
Isn't this arrangement one of Zenger's "great" (snort) accomplishments?
@jayballer67 To be fair, we have to have a few games on ESPN+ and they probably thought expected-to-be-in-
-last-place-KSU coming to AFH would barely be competitive.
@wissox Maybe you not saying it very much is why I noticed it now!
When we moved from Akron to Iowa in 1965 I was in loyalty crisis because I took my Cleveland Indians adulation with me into a small farming town that seemed like it had never heard of sports.
I still thought of Cleveland as "we" even after moving to KC in 1966 (wow, did the Tribe not deserve it). (I literally thought it would be a dusty tumbleweed-ridden Cowtown USA since my only prior exposure was from old Westerns, as well as the song in "Oklahoma" that my parents played nonstop.) In KC by then, no one liked the A's, so I had no sense of that disaster being "my" team.
They left in 1967, the city celebrated, and I still remember the excitement when I opened the KC Times one morning to see the headline over a Joe McGuff story about baseball coming back to KC. My heart was captured as only a pre-teen seeing a birth of a baseball team could be, and they even won their first game....
Those couple of years also exposed me to KU basketball and, of course, the Chiefs. I am proudly "we" for them all!
Sorry for the nostalgia. We have been recovering from that fake virus that somehow made us miserably sick...