@kjayhawks I watched it. It's very likely that many, many pieces of evidence were held out of the documentaries. They both went through the entire appeals process. I do think Dassey got shafted with his "confession." And it's pretty clear he has mental health issues. I think he was also likely involved though, so he should probably be in an institute instead of prison.
Kcmatt7
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I'm ok getting overlooked. So long as we secure a #1 seed in KC. That's the single most important thing for this season.
@HighEliteMajor I see what you're saying now. I'm not opposed to your idea.
HighEliteMajor said:
I really wish CFB wasn't a joke, but it is. No real playoff. Every game doesn't matter. Very few matter at all. And reputation gets you everything. In CBB, it just gets you an extra seeding line.
I'd love for you to expand on this. What would you change? If anything, with 4 teams making the playoffs it seems to me every game matters exponentially more.
My thoughts from the game last night:
- DOTSON IS A DUDE. No stage too big for this fella. Even a blue-collar physical Rick Barnes Tennessee team could rough him up enough. They sure tried though.
- Doke is the most important player on this team. His dominance when he is in the game is truly only able to be appreciated when he is not in the game...
- Dedric is our best offensive player and we need to play through him more. Bonafide stud. I wish he'd pop the top of the key 3 a few more times. But I love playing through him. Those drives are sneaky good
- Has Bill ever had a player as hot as Vick? This senior Vick guy is an absolute terror for short stretches. And HE'S EVEN DRIVING THE BALL. Who knew he could even do that?
- Bill let KJ play through mistakes (because he had too) and it ended up being huge. KJ got some confidence and ended up playing some solid minutes. A couple of great shot contests and rebounds late.
- Grimes played better, but he's still got a long ways to go. A better Selden. I think Grimes will be back at this point...
- Mitch needs to look to score the ball more. It's nice to have such an unselfish player, but he is being one to a fault at this point. His lack of offensive aggression is actually hurting us. SHOOT IT MITCH.
- Big Dave went largely unnoticed. Which I'll take as a good sign.
- Offensively, as a team, I think we are finally finding a pecking order and Dedric is starting to get in a rhythm. Which is scary. We do need to take a few more 3s, but I'm ok feeding Doke and Dedric if nobody can score at their same efficient pace. Vick is the perfect addition to this team. He can go on those 3 minute bursts where he just completely swings the momentum. The weave and screen HI-LO combo looks kind of unstoppable with Doke in (if he doesn't get called for fouls).
- Defensively, I don't like double-teaming a 6'7 center. Killed us. But, we absolutely took out Schofield and that was huge. Grimes played better on D this game. Dotson is so pesky. I still thought 3 point shot challenges were a little late, but not horrible.
This is a great win. I'm sure we'll get lept in the polls by the zags despite two top 10 wins this season. But oh well. I want these guys carrying that chip all season.
Good to have a Tharpe.... Coming off the bench.
@stoptheflop Probably happened before he finally hit that 3 pointer
Moore and KJ gave great minutes last night. KJ had a really, really good stretch from late in the 2nd half all the way through OT. Looked like he gained some confidence.
I still think KJ should see very limited minutes. But, it was nice to see that we can rely on him when his number is called. Hard to believe how deep this team is.
@KUSTEVE bleacher report man
Nevada upset last night too. Wow
Lol a trade would be generous to how bad he's been. My only hope is he goes somewhere like Philly or Boston where they'll give him the time needed to fix himself.
I have to 100% agree that Garrett should barely be touching the floor he is so bad offensively. The period where him and Mitch were on the court at the same time, I'm not sure we scored.
But he did play decent D in the 2nd half. Still, putrid offensively. 11 points on 13 shots, and missing 3 FTs. However he did have the 2nd best defensive rating after Dotson. And he actually had a better offensive rating than Grimes...
The truth is, playing Garrett isn't the issue. It's Grimes not forcing Self to play him. 3 shots in 26 minutes means he isn't looking to score. 0 assists means he wasn't doing anything that would get someone else open. Grimes just plain sucked last night. Maybe Garrett was the better option last night... Even as ugly as it looked.
BShark said:
@Kcmatt7 Very excited about Dotson. Especially if we get 3 years.
Sure would be nice...
BShark said:
@Kcmatt7 I'd vote Dedric, but Dotson was very good.
He came to play tonight. And his rebounding is so good night in and night out that I probably don't appreciate it enough.
I just thought Dotson was pesky on D all night long and made a ton of good decisions on O. His speed alone was responsible for at least 8 points tonight.
dylans said:
When KU decides to guard they are scary good. When they don’t, they are very beatable.
This team should not struggle on either end at any time. Too much talent.
BShark said:
Dotson was extremely good tonight. He shut down Markus Howard completely in the 2nd half.
Dotson was the MVP tonight, imo.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I wasn't complaining about our defense as a whole, I was specifically complaining about our 3-point defense. Before the game. During the game. After the game.
Yes, the perimeter defense was better in the 2nd half. I agree.
I will say that I'm surprised Bill didn't make it an emphasis this season (so far) after the Nova game.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
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StLJhawk said:
Fair enough. I Just have trouble with the “entitlement” vibe here sometimes. We can’t win em all.
Cool. I have a problem with our perimeter defense.
17 points so far in the 2nd half... I still think this team ends up being dominate defensively. My 1st half meltdown has been rescinded.
291st ranked team in 3-point defense. Got torched in the 1st half knowing that Marquette was going to shoot 3's. Played better in the 2nd half. Good. Still a lot of work to do if they want to be a dominant defensive team.
Based on what? Percentage? I can find favorable stats. 3rd ranked Kenpom defense before the game. And I'll go ahead and say it will still be ranked top 5 after holding a good offensive Marquette team to under 70 points.
Yes, based on 3-point percentage. As I've said for the 100th time now. And my complaint was about Kansas' perimeter defense and opponent 3-point percentage. Thank you for finding KenPom stats for me, though.
Thanks for finding 3pt % for me.
I complained about opponents shooting 3's against Kansas. I found opponents 3-point percentage against Kansas.
You found random KenPom stats. Good job I guess?
Its just simply not the only stat that matters for a defense as a whole. And I'd think after a 2nd half of clearly making the adjustment you'd see that? You're right, we need to improve and do better on a consistent basis. But, we showed that we can. What did we allow, four 3s in the 2nd half? That wasn't just cold shooting. That was good perimeter defense.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
StLJhawk said:
Fair enough. I Just have trouble with the “entitlement” vibe here sometimes. We can’t win em all.
Cool. I have a problem with our perimeter defense.
17 points so far in the 2nd half... I still think this team ends up being dominate defensively. My 1st half meltdown has been rescinded.
291st ranked team in 3-point defense. Got torched in the 1st half knowing that Marquette was going to shoot 3's. Played better in the 2nd half. Good. Still a lot of work to do if they want to be a dominant defensive team.
Based on what? Percentage? I can find favorable stats. 3rd ranked Kenpom defense before the game. And I'll go ahead and say it will still be ranked top 5 after holding a good offensive Marquette team to under 70 points.
Yes, based on 3-point percentage. As I've said for the 100th time now. And my complaint was about Kansas' perimeter defense and opponent 3-point percentage. Thank you for finding KenPom stats for me, though.
Thanks for finding 3pt % for me.
Woodrow said:
Garrett took 14 shots and Q took 3! WTF...
Well I will say teams absolutely do not guard Garrett.
Edit: But point still stands.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
StLJhawk said:
Fair enough. I Just have trouble with the “entitlement” vibe here sometimes. We can’t win em all.
Cool. I have a problem with our perimeter defense.
17 points so far in the 2nd half... I still think this team ends up being dominate defensively. My 1st half meltdown has been rescinded.
291st ranked team in 3-point defense. Got torched in the 1st half knowing that Marquette was going to shoot 3's. Played better in the 2nd half. Good. Still a lot of work to do if they want to be a dominant defensive team.
Based on what? Percentage? I can find favorable stats. 3rd ranked Kenpom defense before the game. And I'll go ahead and say it will still be ranked top 5 after holding a good offensive Marquette team to under 70 points.
stoptheflop said:
Why not put Dok back in? Let him finish the game.
FTs? No ability to dribble against the press? Both?
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
StLJhawk said:
Fair enough. I Just have trouble with the “entitlement” vibe here sometimes. We can’t win em all.
Cool. I have a problem with our perimeter defense.
17 points so far in the 2nd half... I still think this team ends up being dominate defensively. My 1st half meltdown has been rescinded.
stoptheflop said:
Lawson 24 pts. 7/14 field and 9 rbs.
Stud.
I'm not sure Bill has ever had a player as poor offensively as Garrett.
wissox said:
Vick's head is getting in the way right now.
A little overconfident. Needs to be aggressive, but in the right way.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I don't know why everyone is so happy. Yes, Kansas is winning but they've looked like garbage guarding the 3-point line for most of the game.
I'd say not allowing a point for a good 10 minutes is deserving of some praise. Proof this team CAN play D at least.
Lawson will find it guys.
Also, Dotson might not be back... Lightning in a bottle with decent vision and not a horrible shooter. He might find his way into the bottom of the 1st round.
Grimes in the dog house. He might be back...
Lol at people wanting Doke to play less this season. Statistical anomaly and completely unguardable with his strength and length.
When you switch, you let the offense dictate who guards who.
LOL Garrett starts.
kjayhawks said:
I’ve just come to the conclusion this team just doesn’t have it. If Vick doesn’t go nuts we likely have 2 home losses to mid majors. We are probably past due for a down with 14 straight and 3 straight E8s.
Whoah. Pump those breaks.
Garrett shouldn't see the floor this half. Holy shit. Have we ever had a worse offensive player under Bill?
I miss the old stubborn Hi-Lo and Tough D Bill. That's who this team needs.
I remember the times when we had Kaun and Jackson and Arthur would hedge hard and trap an opposing guard at half court, forcing a tough pass that would at least be contested if not stolen.
This is just embarrassing. Bill needs to go and watch his own old film.
Garrett sucks. And Bill has lost the ability to coach defense apparently. Do we really think this team should be this bad defensively?
We have defaulted to a switching defense with piss poor rotations because nobody knows who they are guarding. Am I crazy or did Bill Self win a championship with HARD hedges and aggressive rotations where we jumped lanes and got easy steals?
nuleafjhawk said:
@Kcmatt7 When the game starts off with one team having 9 penalties, and the other team having ZERO - pockets are being lined.
Yes, I'm a biased Chiefs fan, but i agree with your assessment of a WHOLE bunch of blatantly crap calls -- both ways.
In my expert (sarcasm font enabled) opinion - we win this game by 2 TD's if Mahomes hadn't bought into the idea that he is Superman. He tried to make a lot of really stupid plays that experienced QB's would have thrown into the stands or thrown a screen to a wide open receiver (who happens to be the fastest guy in the league). Yes, he is better than most NFL QB's at digging himself out of a pit, but the Chiefs have NO chance of getting to the Super Bowl if he doesn't learn when not to throw into double or triple coverage.
Oh yeah, they might want to fire Bob Sutton and get Clint Bowen if they want to win some games. Because that defense (again with the sarcasm font when i say "defense") is going to do nothing but cost us games.
I think you have to let Mahomes be Mahomes. You take the good with the bad. He's on pace to throw 54 TDs and 16 ints and over 5200 yards. Only HOF guys put up those kinds of numbers. That's just not the issue imo. I get what you're saying. And I think he'll get better just from playing. But the truth is that this team only has a shot at a Superbowl BECAUSE of Mahomes.
As far as the defense goes, I think we just need to make sure that the AFC path to the Superbowl comes through Arrowhead.
BShark said:
@JayHawkFanToo Last year's stats with mostly the same players. If anything they have underperformed from 3 to start the year. Combine that with KU's poor defense which allows nothing but wide open threes and we could be looking at a break out game where Marquette scores over 100.
You made me look it up. Bill Self has never given up 100 points in a game that didn't go into overtime while at KU.
That game played out just like the NFL wanted it. I'm always going to be suspicious of unprecedented referee personnel moves by a multi billion dollar organization where they are trying to grow a fanbase in the largest city in the country.
The Rams "quick snaps" are all illegal. They had at least 3 false starts not called. The block in the back penalty was a joke. The pass interference that was almost a pick to start the game was a joke. This game was a joke.
With that being said, Chiefs still had their shot. If this game is on a neutral field and I'd bet we win. And I did have fun watching the game. I just could have written the story before it happened.
CaL dIdNt waNt HiM anYwAYS
Not that we didn't just struggle against 309...
Put it another way. They are ranked 311 on Kenpom
Good guys by double digits.
@HighEliteMajor What's more expensive long-term for Adidas? Dragging out a lawsuit that will have national attention, paying more lawyers, and hurting the relationship between several of your most profitable schools OR paying a few million dollars to make the problem go away? I think the decision is pretty easy. Squash all bugs and get the negative PR out of the news as quickly as possible.
This isn't about whether or not Adidas could win or lose the case. It is about public image and future profitability.
@HighEliteMajor I'm glad you're not in PR.
@kjayhawks He said that JUCOs were for emergency gap fills.
Basically laid out his plan like this (at least how I understood it):
- Recruit in 500 mile radius.
- Any positions not landed in said radius, look for in Texas, Louisiana and California.
- Any starting positions missing after that, fill with JUCO kids. Maybe a couple a year. Not double digit numbers.
@HighEliteMajor Sure. Pay him too.
@BShark Oh such a reach on both lol. But no way in Hell KU Lawyers allow KU to be involved in a lawsuit by someone they never recruited.
@BShark Can't blame him for taking free money... A few Million dollars and a nice little NDA will likely be coming.