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justanotherfan said:

Offensively, KU needs to use Doke as a third or fourth option, not a primary or secondary option.

Doke just isn't a skilled enough passer to hurt teams when they double him. Dedric is much better in that capacity. Offensively, the pecking order should be D.Lawson, then Grimes, Vick, PG X (Moore or Dotson), Doke, K.Lawson, Garrett, Big Man X (Silvio, Big Dave, Mitch). KU is much more dangerous that way.

As for MSU, I say KU by 9, pulling away late 68-59.

Doke will serve his purpose. He is too efficient to cut him out of the offense. He scores at a rate better than a team hitting 50% of their 3 pointers can match. As ugly as it looks sometimes, the ball finds it's way into the basket at the highest rate in all of NCAA D1 basketball. I don't think we should play through him the entire time he's out there, but he needs the ball.

I think the fact that teams HAVE to double him every time he gets the ball lends to the fact that he is a dominant post player. He will improve passing out of the double-team like he did as the year wore on last season. He needs to get better at realizing when it comes sooner, but I have no doubt that he will.

Of course we should play through Dedric all season long as the number one option. But I do think if Doke can start reading the double team better that playing through him will open up easy shots for others.

Two exhibition games in and it's like everyone forgot Doke just had a season where he shot 77% from the field lol. (and better than that in Conference play)

I'd take what Doke did against Washburn every single night. His per 40 was like 40 points, 13 rebounds, 4 blocks and 6 assists lol.

@Gorilla72 Am I reading that they essentially lost by 18 to Gonzaga?

I'll take KU by 8. I think we have the advantage everywhere except PG. I think Nick Ward will have his hands full with Doke on both ends. I think Dedric owns the Goins/Tillman matchup. I like Vick guarding Langford. I like Garrett guarding McQuaid. The only matchup I don't like is against Winston.

Bench-wise, I'll take Grimes, Dotson, KJ and Mitch over Tillman/Goins and whatever 100+ ranked freshman MSU brought in this season.

We are just as experienced and at least as talented in the starting lineup (if not more), but our bench is significantly better. I think as long as Grimes and Dotson both make a positive impact on the game, KU wins.

approxinfinity said:

@Kcmatt7 Umm unfortunately that was from a year ago :(

oh wow

jaybate 1.0 said:

Small ball, meet Joel Embiid.

Someone hack this account?

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

BShark said:

Elijah Elliott is going to RS. 5 year walk-on hyyype.

"Walk-on"

Should I have said bag man?

Odds he gets real minutes at some point?

BShark said:

Elijah Elliott is going to RS. 5 year walk-on hyyype.

"Walk-on"

BigBad said:

Not saying he won’t be good for us. I’m just thinking his NBA ability. I’d have rather had Romeo Langford.

I think you'll come around on him by January. I think Grimes ends up the better all around player

Give Grimes until the end of the season. He gone. He'll go for 30 and save us at one point this season.

approxinfinity said:

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Too bad Philly drafted Fultz instead of Tatum

ALL TIME DRAFT FUCK UP

Well, forgetting how to shoot your shot is really weird. Who does that? Drafting Anthony Bennett over Oladipo is imho the worst in recent memory.

Oladipo turned into a dude though.

approxinfinity said:

Lonzo and Fox would have been better too, if they wanted a PG

Problem is they didn't need one. Especially not one who struggles to shoot. They needed a 3 and D wing. Simmons is a 6'10 PG, not a point forward.

Too bad Philly drafted Fultz instead of Tatum

Mitch looks better than KJ for sure

Q has it all. Can dribble, finish at the Rim, Shoot the trey, pass the ball. Has the size and athleticism. Future NBA stud

KJ is SLOOOOOW

There we go. Catch and look to score first and foremost. Be ready to let one fly boys!!

I'd turn on the UCF game after this if I were you guys. In a dog fight at home against Temple

Woodrow said:

Vick knocking down some shots tonight. Good stuff.

Still waiting for him to be able to attack the basket off of the dribble. If he could do that he would be 15 ppg easy I think.

And I will say that I am pleasantly surprised by Moore and will probably be eating crow this season.

The one thing that I expected was a high pressure D from us. The intensity is just not there.

The D is roughhhh

@approxinfinity I still don't think he sees minutes.

I think Self may have used the Lawson's to get to Dedric. I am starting to suspect he cuts ties with them this offseason depending on how recruiting all shakes out...

Woodrow said:

I know it’s only a game and a half of exhibitions but I don’t see a lottery pick in Grimes right now.

Last game I definitely saw a lot that looked like an NBA PG. He has the size and the vision.

I don't know that they'll be looking at much else honestly.

Woodrow said:

Kcmatt7 said:

KJ is kind of butt

He has not done anything for me yet.

More than anything, he looks either lost or not giving 100%. Neither is a good thing.

KJ is kind of butt

@DanR I'm more concerned with the D and lack of confidence in taking shots. Add in just simply not being ready to shoot. Guys making the easy pass to the wide open guy and they pass up a shot because they weren't ready to catch and shoot.

Charlie is going to start for a bit. Dotson is not ready for the speed of the game.

@BShark Thanks bro.

justanotherfan said:

The more I watch Doke, the more I struggle to see a place for him in the modern NBA. The NBA wants big men like Silvio (who is probably headed to the NBA next year anyway). There just isn't much upside for a big that can't handle the ball, shoot past ten feet or switch onto guards. Doke is in the wrong era. He'd already be in the NBA if this was the 90's because his size would be coveted by every team trying to deal with Shaq, Ewing, Olajuwon, Mourning, etc. But that era has passed.

You have to go skill guys 1-5. The NBA is moving away from guys at either extreme. You will see fewer guys under 6-2 in the NBA, but also fewer guys over 6-10 because everyone needs to be able to guard anyone on the other team. A really big guy is at the same disadvantage as a really small guy. That's the new trend. You want a bunch of guys 6-5 to 6-8 (why Quentin Grimes is a top 5 pick right now IMHO - he can play PG and is 6-5).

I agree. I think Doke needs to stay and get his degree at this point.

@KUSTEVE Unfortunately, I'm basically out of powder at this point. I'm not moving any money from my LT play. I have a few calls that I plan on cashing out in December to finally put a ring on Future Mrs. Kcmatt. After that, who knows what I'll do.

But I do agree, a LT put buy is basically guaranteed money at this point. I'd think any January 2020 Put options would be good. Your other choice if you wanted to bet against the market would be to sell calls. That way time decay works for you instead of against you.

I've decided I'm just going to take whatever beating is coming. I'm long in a few stocks that are borderline crossing over into being cash flow positive finally and FOMO is really kicking in with them.

BShark said:

@Kcmatt7 Hahahaha wow, yeah he's playing the market. And yeah he knows the game, he is a sports agent iirc.

That is correct. https://www.linkedin.com/in/wjeromestanley/ ↗

Stanley's dad isn't some dummy. Easy to see why they landed on the three schools they did.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Stanley's dad on upcoming trip to Oregon

This coming weekend, Stanley will wrap up his official visits when he heads to Eugene.

“It’s a situation on the upswing,” Jerome said. “Dana Altman is a well-respected coach. They have great resources.

RESOURCES LOL.#notcomingimgettingnikemoney

We will find out heh. UCLA is still Adidas right?

!alt text ↗

Gross. And we are going to end up signing with them for 12 years.

@BeddieKU23 Certainly a possibility. I just tend to blame the Suns organization until proven otherwise. Either way, you're right. His NBA career is about to become a fight to stay in the league.

@BeddieKU23 They knew he couldn't shoot when they drafted him. They didn't take the time to fix it, and now here we are.

It absolutely is time for Snyder to retire. He has health issues and he has quit trusting his coaching staff. I get that he wants his son to be the coach after him, but it isn't his decision. Nor should it be. It isn't a family business.

Just another level of crazy. Anti-Jew. But Pro Israel.

@KirkIsMyHinrich You think Reid starts over PJ?

@KirkIsMyHinrich Their starting lineup for game 1 was:

• Green
• Quickley
• KJ
• PJ
• Richards

With Travis, Montgomery, Herro and Hagans coming off of the bench. I kind of think this is how it ends up shaking out. Hagans has yet to score in double digits through 5 exhibition games.

Or even running Garrett at PG and letting him just go ISO while the other 4 are ready for a catch and shoot. We may see the return of some bad ball this year.

@BShark @justanotherfan Or you could run Grimes at PG and not have a player under 6'5 and literally switch everything. Could be deadly on both ends.

Grimes - Garrett - Vick - Lawson - Lawson

I'd bet they conclude that he is too expensive to fire.

Lemon is an asshat.

I thought Jones looked decent in their exhibition games. I don't think he will have to do a lot besides not completely screw up. So from that aspect, he should be fine.

If we don't find another big, I think we probably need to look at taking a transfer or two.

The more I look, the more Dante looks ready to play college ball now, physically. He will be old enough to go pro. I see no reason why he wouldn't reclass unless the NBA changed the OAD rule a year earlier than most expect.

Bill needs to be talking to Dante's handler and start talking reclass already. Get him here and eligible however you have to do it.