@HawkChamp YEP pretty plain and simple. - -I've seen them multiple times and they got lucky to be ranked as high as they were - -un deserving the only reason they got that high was the process of elimination - -teams above them losing - -they didn't stay long.
Actually the only player I was impressed with was the Remy Martin kid - -decent player - -other then that - -not so much - -BAD loss for KU. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73
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BShark said:
Ouch
YA that's what I'm thinking lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
dylans said:
Just be diligent about the rehab exercises and you will be a-okay. The stiffness after the surgery will be something you have to work out for around a year, then it gets easier. Stay active, an exercise bike would be nice for your recovery phase. Best of luck!
Thank you for that -- the information - - have you had a knee replacement? - - dang it takes that long to work out the stiffness? - I knew they said it would set me back for awhile. - BUT it's ok I gotta do - -what I gotta do , if this is what it takes - -then let's do this - -get it over with and get back on the road to recovery. - - I appreciate the tip - -IF this does turn out - and I feel like this is what's going to happen - just have to take one day at a time. - -get out and exercise as soon as possible - -I know there will be re-hab for sure. -- Thanks my friend. -- ROCKCHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
mayjay said:
@jayballer73 Good luck. I have been lucky to never have knee problems, or back problems. Might be because my ankles collapse whenever anything happens like the crumple zones on modern cars.
Good news: You used the phrase "put me down" due to your knee but they don't do that to humans. (Yet.) You are safe.
Roflmao-- ya I guess your right huh - -didn.t even really think about that lol -ya so that is good news - -might be better f they did put me down - just take me to some pasture lol. - I mean it's not 100% this is what's happening but every sign sure pointing that way.
It's just like right now just lt's pressure around my knee cap - I didn't realize you have more the one menicious - cause when they told me I might of tore it -I said UMMM no - -because they too that all out in my 2nd surgery cause I had re -tore it - -he says well you have a inner - -And an outer - -so great lol,
I've been really blessed - - -not really , 3 back surgeries - -have degenerative disc's that's what put me on my disability ask my doc after my last one if I could go back to work - - he ask me what I did again, I told him and he said - - NOPE - - YOUR DONE - your back is basically shot - I says great - so now I have titanium screws in my back well 1st I had stainless steel then when they went back in they put the titanium screws in - -and have a spacer in my side. - - plus these 2 knee surgeries.
After my 2nd surgery they took a piece of bone from my hip and put it in my spine - -and took a bone from a and I know I'm not spelling this right but bare with me but a sterile piece of bone from a cadavor and put it in my hip. - -My dam butt cheek/hip hurt worse then my back. I asked the Doc why he couldn't just take the bone from the cadaver and put it In my spine and leave my dam hip alone.
He said because my body was already use to my bone from my hip -- while the other bone while sterile could still be rejected by my body - -Super - -so ya - -I'm a mess lol. but ya your right at least they not putting me down
That's good cause they did that I wouldn't be able to give you guys crap - get you all worked up lol -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
well sure is looking not good for the home team ( ME ). - Will find out here pretty quick I'm suppose to find out on the 1st of March - possibly/probably going to have a total knee replacement, I AM NOT really looking forward to that.
Totally new territory for me - -have heard going to put me down for a spell but everyone says as long as I do my therapy afterwards it's a pretty common procedure and lots have had it done and helps a lot.
I had the 2 surgeries on it when I tore my MCL & LCL - -then I re tore my MCL again - -so they took it completely out, - still having trouble with it a year and a half later and I know that I shouldn't still be having problems with my knee that long after my surgeries. - -have pretty sufficient pain/ache around my knee cap at different times and the feels like pressure around my knee cap most the time - -I've also have fell like 4 times my knee just lockup and buckle - so I know something not just sure what but something IS NOT ight.
The Doctor is worried about the Cartlidge in my knee Sooo come the 1st of March I will find out - had an MRI done -he says depending on the severity chances are we could be looking at a total knee replacement - that bites - -but it is what it is, so I might be out a bit- - -ya ya I know that will really upset you all not having me to stir up trouble but hey - I might surprise you still be able to make it to my key board lol -Anyways wish me luck - - I can do this even at 64 yrs old lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY ONG BABY
JayHawkFanToo said:
jayballer73 said:
well I know one for sure that's not good. - - Washington is not a good team - you consider Washington a good team ? - if you do you need to grab a websters and look up the definition of good. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
So, what is your definition of a good team? Would you say a team that is in the top third of all Division I is good? How about 70 percentile? Washington is there and currently a bubble team for the Tournament. It might not be a title contender but as teams go, it is not a bad team...didn’t it beat KU after all?
No need to take my comments so personally, they are just comments. I thought you were going to try being less thin skinned.:smile:
and when I comment back I have - - -and I didn't take it personal. - -not really sure how I can make people understand I'm not. guess it's my twisted approach boy if some REALLY knew me - they would faint lol.
Ya your right they did beat KU - -and that is a BAD loss -a team that's what in 5th in a weak conference ya - -BAD BAD loss. - The Pac 12 sucks - -Arizona is really the only legit team they got. - -Arizona State fell back to earth they really ain't squat and it's proven it'self out. - - Hell who isn't a bubble team - -lol --and their bubble is pretty weak.
I'm not taking anything you say personal my friend this is just how I am- not meaning to sound insulting to you - love your thoughts - love the site. - -See someone has to kind of be a rebel I guess keep things stirred up -Everyone should have their comments. - -hope were good. - -wish I knew how to use all the little emoji's can't even find them here anymore - whoops their is my computer stupidity showing again lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@Buster-1926 I don't have a hummer or brand new tires. Surely it will be ok by tmrw? I usually head south after Topeka but will probably go 1-70 to Salina and down. I'm coming back up for mon's game so I need to get home.
just use some common sense for road conditions and you'll be fine - -only thing is you might be fine - but it's the other idiots that are out you have to look out for .
I dunno they talking about repeat rounds again like late tomorrow of freezing drizzle - -rain some light snow - -tomorrow night - - Thursday night --Friday - chances in each night - - just be careful - I think you'll be ok - roads here in Topeka pretty good. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@jayballer73 ice gone from i 70? I'm still in Lawrence
Ya I think it's pretty cleared up - -this way anyways. - -
Damn guys still getting a warm fuzzy tingly feeling on Silvio from last night - or it might be from my bourbon I've had tonight lol - -think he gave us a hint of what is to come - -looking forward to him the rest of the season - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
JayHawkFanToo said:
Addressing the issues you said Forde raised...Preston did no play a single NCAA sanctioned game, how dis this help KU? Alexander was sat down as soon as information came out and costed KU plenty by being short handed in post season. Jackson and Bragg had no eligibility issues, the suspensions were due to team rules violations. His attempt to impugn KU is just comical and laughable.
exactly. -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
JayHawkFanToo said:
Pat Forde is a Missouri grad that cannot help himself. Not that long ago there had a poll among sports writers about the best college basketball venue and AFH was in the top 3 of every single voter...except Forde who did not even had AFH in his top 10. This is not being a homer or biased or even childish, it is just being plain stupid.
Stupid indeed - -- - -this guy is a joke, although I didn't realize he is a Mizzery person -- that explains it - thanks for filling me in on this no wonder he writes articles such as this. - -Although he wasn't just talkin KU as I mentioned but still - -the ONLY thing that I might even begin to agree with IF anything is - -makes me worry a little bity - and I was anyways even before this - -that is the whole Cliff thing. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Pat Forde beating his gums ia an article saying that: Four programs that could have openings depending how much blowback results from the ongoing Federal investigation of College Basketball and potential NCAA issues; The 4 are : Auburn - -USC - - Arizona - & KU Forde lists.
His reasoning for KU he says: Because of star recruit Billy Preston ineligibility has yet to be addressed.
Then he talks about the 2015 ineligibility of Freshman Cliff Alexander late in the season for dealings with a financial company.
Then the smoke that surrounded KU last year with Bragg & Jackson both being suspended.
Then and the fact several other Adidas backed programs were caught up in the feds dragnet. - -
Forde then saying Coach Self Teflon status may get a bit sticky as things progress.
Good ol Pat Forde WTH. - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Texas Hawk 10 said:
jayballer73 said:
JayHawkFanToo said:
I don't agree. This team is just too good to lose to #16 seed. All the loses have been to very good or good teams, a #16 seed would likely be ranked outside the top 100 and would have had to be in a play-in game. The parity in college basketball is in the top 20-40 teams not between a top 10 and a below 100 team. No way, no how, no ma'am.
well I know one for sure that's not good. - - Washington is not a good team - you consider Washington a good team ? - if you do you need to grab a websters and look up the definition of good. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Have you looked at the PAC 12 standings? 5th place Washington is a clear bubble team that has a winning conference record right now. Baylor and OSU are both worse losses for KU than Washington is right now.
LOL, you just answered the whole subject - - PAC 12? - the conference is a joke- I know your not trying to say the Pac 12 is better the big 12 right? - -I know you didn't just try and say that did you?. - -Have you seen what Baylor has been doing? - KU isn't the only Big 12 team they are beating - -Pac 12 - - Big 12 - - Big 12 - -Pac 12 - -no comparison - - hell the YMCA team that Coach Self talked about a few years back when we got beat could have over a 500 winning pct in the Pac 12- Ucla isn't squat - - USC - - - please - - -Arizona State has proved what they actually are -have you happen to see how they choked showed what they truly are - - - Arizona -- possibly - their decent - - other then that - - pssssssssssssttt please get off me with that.- - Like has been stated by broadcasters analysts - - you have no given wins in the BIG 12 - -every game is a war. - -You put Washington in the Big 12 - they be right down there with Iowa state this year bottom dweller sucker. - - Washington? - - please - but that was a good joke though made me laugh thanks. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONGBABY
BeddieKU23 said:
Sitting 17th on the all-time scoring list.
Passed Jeff Boschee last night. He will pass Tyshawn Taylor and Wayne Simien in the next few games. Still has a chance to crack the top 10 depending on how far we go..
In 2nd place on 3 pointers made with 270 trailing.. Jeff Boschee.
He's tied for 15th in the Big-12 all-time.
His energy was awesome last night. Hope it continues. Senior Night next Monday for him..
Mercy , he has turned into quite the leader hasn't he? - - he seems like he plays with such poise - -driving the ball a little more, making good assists - -just a very solid player. - -When I think about it - -STILL hard to believe that Devonte was headed to who? - - APP ST?- -WOW did we get lucky and have him fall into our laps or what - -between him and Frank.
Just a little side note - -was kind of Cool to see josh back there, good to know he wanted to come back for a game. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Boy, what a night huh? - -I mean we came out from the tip and pretty much tip to final buzzer just kicked ass. - This game was just a plain old good fashion ass kickin.
You know what? - -Re-watched the game this morning and it was just as much fun if not more then when they were actually playing the game - and we won - -AGAIN by the same score too lol.
To me there were so many positive things to take away from this game. - -I mentioned after the WV game that I thought we were starting to turn the corner - - now I know we are.
So many things: - - - Doke even though he didn't put up huge numbers10 points 8 rebounds and 3 blocks - -he is becoming a real presence inside. - - - Mitch: - dam man how active is this kid? - just brings so much energy - -again he will not ever be a super star - -but he just brings it every time out. - -I mean that sequence where the guy just gets 3 blocks like BAM - - BAM - -BAM and then the flush - - mercy.- - -In my wildest dreams I would of never imagined him being that kind of a shot blocker love the kid. - Remember how there were lots of us who shivered at the thought of him stepping on the floor? - - - Again though - what a perfect time for him to red shirt next year - -imagine how he might help after his redshirt.
Then we have De Sousa . - -Can we all say HELLO SILVIO? - -Can you imagine? - - I mean yes it's ONE GAME but ya think the light has come on? - it's slowing down for him - - -Just imagine how big he can be for us down the stretch & post season/NCAA time - his added presence is huge. - -the kid is going to be really good I think.
Then when we have all the guys on the same page - -and we hitting the 3 like we did last night - - look out when we click like we did last night - -we can be really good. - I think Vick has come out of his lil slump - - Malik seems to be playing better - -Devonte is Devonte - - & SVI - -- ya. - when this team is focused - I really like this team -- -ALOT- - oh ya them we have Garrett - really good D and great hands seems really quick - maybe we can have some success in the NCAA after all. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
JayHawkFanToo said:
I don't agree. This team is just too good to lose to #16 seed. All the loses have been to very good or good teams, a #16 seed would likely be ranked outside the top 100 and would have had to be in a play-in game. The parity in college basketball is in the top 20-40 teams not between a top 10 and a below 100 team. No way, no how, no ma'am.
well I know one for sure that's not good. - - Washington is not a good team - you consider Washington a good team ? - if you do you need to grab a websters and look up the definition of good. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Ya, I wondered when I heard Trae say this. " I'm being guarded like nobody else in the Nation now I've forgot the other part" - -when I heard this I thought what? - that just didn't sound right
Now Jay Williams & Seth Greenberg both have brought it up. -Jay said as a player you may thin things-- -BUT things you don't say. Seth pretty much repeated as much the same thing - - saying there is just like a protocol - things not said.
Again when I heard this the other day I thought then something just didn't sound right when he said that - thought maybe just me - but then they brought this up right off the bat tonight.
It almost came off as like some spoiled little kid pouting - like saying why - why are you playing against me like this. - Seth said Trae has to realize this is just the way it is - -and he isn't playing AAU ball and he is playing against some of the best in the Nation. - Just some strange words I thought. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
kjayhawks said:
@jayballer73 That was maybe the worst National Athem I’ve ever heard, but she looked into and tired hard. I’m not gonna hate because tried to spice up the night.
I've liked her music - but man did she miss on this - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Mercy I thought the same thing and now they were talking about it on the local radio sports show - -Fergie - -just plained sucked I mean sucked singing the National Anthem.
she apologized today saying she is a risk taker and she loves this country and it just didn't work - In cased you missed it - she tried to put a sexy twist tp THE NATIONAL ANTHEM - -she was just awful
Charles Barkley said afterwards when she was done he needed a cigarette. - -I mean it was AWFUL - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
joeloveshawks said:
@jayballer73 Being the first #1 would be one of the all time upsets. Goes without saying. That would cut as deep as any loss in KU history. But I don't think that is reason enough to not want a #1 seed. In theory the #1 has the easiest path and #1 seeds have been to the Final 4 more than any other seed. I fully understand what you are saying though. It sort of feels like the year that would happen!!
Ya not saying it will happen - just saying t could happen without to much of a stretch with the way this season has gone.
I just don't really see a huge spread between the #1's - -and # 2's this year - and we never have had a lot of success when we are a number 1 seed so either way I'm good. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Well dam this doesn't do me any good - -as it's a dam VIP - so don't know what he said about KU - - yay. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
JayHawkFanToo said:
Do you really think that if KU gets a #1 seed it would lose to #16 seed?
With the way this season has played out -- with there not being a really dominant team - with the way how badly as Ku has played at times this year - the scoring droughts we have went through this year - the way so many ranked teams have got beaten by non ranked teams this year - -you dam skippy it cold happen with out a doubt. - -Do you think beyond a shadow of a doubt can say they couldn't? - anything can and has happened - -not really sure why you couldn't think it couldn't. - it's gonna happen sooner or later - - NOTHING would surprise me in this year of Basketball - -that's why they play the games. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
checking out the sites: - - -Lunardi -has 8 - - yes 8 teams in the tourney right now:
South : - -Texas Tech - 3 - - -Texas - 12 - - - -East:- - West Virginia- 5- - -Oklahoma- 6- - - West:- - KU - 1- - - Baylor- 11- - Midwest- - TCU- 9- - - KSU- 11
Jerry Palm from CBS - - has 7 teams in the tourney right now
South- - Texas Tech- 3- - East:- - West Virginia - 5- - West:- - KU- 1- - KSU- 10 ( vs # 7 Mizzery by the way )- - Midwest- - TCU- 8- - Oklahoma- 7 - - Has Texas/Flordia- - 11's--playin- - & Baylor first four out.
USA Today Bracket: - -has 8- - -yes 8 teams in the tourney right now
South- - ZERO from the Big 12- - - East:- - Oklahoma-6- - KSU-9- - West- - KU- 1- - West Virginia-5- - TCU-10- - & Baylor- 11- - - Mid West- - Texas Tech- 3- - Texas-10
Geez - - Trae Young is pulling LOT'S of Weight - -announcers yesterday talking about their free fall and to them if they not careful - -Oklahoma will or could very easily become a bubble team. - -Then I see these brackets as of today and they are ASTILL very solid. -- a 6 - - 6 --& 7 - -man oh man I don't get that. Going to be interesting - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
joeloveshawks said:
@wissox It is still an amazing thing to be a #1 vs. a #2. The #1 seeds remain 100% perfect against the #16 seeds. The #2 seeds have become more and more vulnerable over the years. I would hate to be another #2 to go down!! That said, I will be thrilled with a #2 seed if that is what we get this year based on the ups and downs of the regular season and our lack of consistency at AFH.
Which would be a worse scenario , ANOTHER #2 to go down OR be the 1st # 1 that loses to a # 16 seed in the history of the tourney?
You may think that sounds crazy -- but with the type of year we have had - some really bad nights shooting the ball seemed like our heads just not in the game - - the way this season has gone with so many ranked teams being beatin during the season losing to some un ranked teams - - - the way there doesn't seem to be a really dominant tem - - this season - -we sure are not dominant which would you rather see between those two scenarios? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
On ESPN this morning on the Golic and whoever the other guy is now- -they had a piece about the free throw discrepancy they talked to Tom Creene - is that his last name - the former IU coach that broadcasts now? - - Anyways they was talking to him and he said part of West Virginia problem was they got KU into the bonus early and most of the fouls were shooting fouls and he too mentioned that a lot of WV shots were outside and not driving the middle. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY ONG BABY
wissox said:
Anyone see this tonight? http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=22496620&ex_cid=espnapi_public ↗
I WATCHED BECAUSE OF Jo Jo. - -Could of done without that pre game crap but Jo Jo had the first 5 points of the game - -had a couple of sweet 3 pt shoots - one was pretty deep - -took Durant to the hole had a couple of blocks - -19-8-2 not bad for your 1st NBA all star game - -sit for some long stretches but played pretty well Man what a animal. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
drgnslayr said:
I don't understand the "logic" used to pick brackets and seedings.
Kansas a #1 seed, says Lunardi? Gheezus. Okay.. we have some nice wins. What about some of those horrible losses? This is the sort of junk that creates Jayhawk haters... putting us in the same "rigged narrative" as Duke.
True. Plus all it does is feed the frenzy when we are a # 1 seed and then lose the 2nd game or 2nd weekend-- - just feeds what we here yearly - -how we are so overrated - -how we constantly wet all over ourselves - I just don't see us as a # 1 I just don't. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 Thank you for the info. Guess goes to show how naïve I am. I didn't realize Michigan States schedule sucked so bad & here I was thumping my chest saying they deserved a number 1 spot. - Guess I was feeding to much into their record and how many they have won in a row and where they stand in the rankings right now in the top 25. - -Well what about Texas Tech possibly? - of course a lot of that would ride on how the game turned out with us and the big 12 tourney I reckon. - Heck I don't begin to know now lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
Only 4 ranked teams haven't lost in the past TWO Weeks. How crazy is that.
Ranked teams went 27-20 this week. 15 ranked teams lost this week alone.
it has been really crazy this year. - -I don't think you have that one really dominant team that is head and shoulders above the rest. - Could prove for a really interesting Dance. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
wissox said:
I don't want the #1 seed. To be honest I'd take about a 4 or 5 seed and let them be the underdog. Tired of the losing to a lower seeded team scenario that has afflicted our team the past 5 seasons and 9 of 10 or whatever it is. This is one year we really don't deserve the #1 seed. We have too many ugly losses obviously with the home losses to good but not great teams.
I Actually have to agree with you on this lol. - I know we have had a couple of times umm we didn't agree BUT I couldn't agree more actually. - Again I really don't care if we are a # 1 this yr or not - -like you say for one thing being a # 1 hasn't really been that beneficial to us anyways.- -I'm not sure about a 4-5 but I think anywhere from a 1-3 is possible for us - -I would be satisified with a # 2 -we have had our share of early exits with a # 1 seed and losing to lesser teams - We actually haven't had any dominant wins against quality teams this year. - -What's our biggest margin of victory in the Big 12? - -We have ONE game by double digits - - that was to K- Straight - other then that they have been - - -6,4,5,1,5,3,7,&5- - -that's not what you call dominant solid wins.- - -while in the main time have been beatin pretty solid 2 times - -12 by Tech and 16 by Baylor - -so yes some ugly losses.
I'm just not convinced we need or deserve a # 1 - we are top 4 seed we going to be in Wichita chances are anyways but ya I have to agree with ya. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
KUSTEVE said:
@jayballer73 Tech beat NW by 35. Yes, great comeback yesterday. But Sparty doesn't have the schedule to support a 1 seed. 2 Top 50 RPI victories is less than alot of midmajors that aren't even ranked. Not saying they can't play like a 1 seed, but they will punished for the cupcake schedule.
Possibly so, I just feel and it's just me - I just don't feel we deserve a # 1 seed/ = Actually guy I am not sure if it would do us better NOT to be a # 1 seed - there is not that much difference between a # ! & 2 anyways - Purdue - - - Michigan - - - Ohio State pretty salty - not trying to disagree just me myself feel that they should get the #1 at this point anyways a # 1 over us. -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well I just read from zag's blog - -that ol Joey L - with ESPN has us as a # 1 seed along with Virginia - - Xavier - - Villanova.
Sorry guys I can't see it. I don't see how you can keep Michigan State off the one line, with the way the been playing and then how they came back yesterday and I think they are what # 2 in the Nation and you don't have them as a # 1 seed? - -come on - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
kjayhawks said:
I would be shocked to see us on the one line regardless if we win the conference, 6 loses is a lot for a 1 seed. OU IMO should be on the bubble right now, 16-10 and losers of 8 of their last 10. If they lose to us Monday no reason other than Young viewership to put them in.
I agree I don't think there is anyway we end up as a # 1. - Actually personally I don't care if we are a 2 - -not a lot of difference and maybe a better ending. Just seems we just don't that well as a # 1 maybe a little less pressure who knows. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
We need to bury OU tomorrow night.
Here is what I can see easily happen tomorrow night with Oklahoma. - -I think quite possibly Trae will come out have a huge game meaning some where close to 30 - -BUT with this swoon this team is in, I don't see the supporting cast giving him enough help.
I think we get the win despite Trae's big game - we just have to make sure we don't let Trae AND Manik is his name right? - they both can't go off -but with the way they have been playing I think we take this.
I noticed yesterday and some other that I have talked to says it looks like to them that some of the Oklahoma players have cashed it in - -very well might be some chemistry issues we will see - -but I think we come out play hard as a team - -we take this game - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
justanotherfan said:
The FT disparity looks bad in a really close game. That's not something we can argue. If we had that type of disparity against us, we would be upset, so I get where WVU is coming from.
Exactly - - no more needs to be said then just that. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
truehawk93 said:
Sorry, I just lost some respect for Huggy. How can a coach with his years, and bball IQ even raise this issue. I can't believe he's blaming the refs. He admitted you can't win shooting 2 FTs. His guards chose not to drive. The Doke block on Miles was clean. Doke went straight up and Miles threw the ball into Doke's arms. People are bitching about the last 2 mins. What about WVU blowing a huge lead. Ask Washington, ASU, TT, or OSU if there was any 'home cooking.'
I am SOOOOOOOO sick of the home cooking CHIT I could throw up. If a coach, team or fan base is expecting calls by the refs to win a game, they are stupid. Huggy even said for the refs to, "Come out and answer questions" at the post game pressers. This would eliminate ALL credibility and neutrality. I can't tell you how many games I've wanted to 'blame' the refs. But I know they are human and they make calls. There were so so so many fouls committed by WVU, but I didn't say a word. And sorry the flop by Big Mouth Sagaba (sp.), he's cheap and has an NBA ego that needs humbled. Doke's tap to him and his flop was NO foul. How about the mauling of Svi? They mauled all game, but hey, that's WVU ball. I accept it. But if you foul on virtually every play, there will be fouls. I thought there were tick tack fouls all game both ways. The majority of the WVU fouls were committed in the last 2 mins. WVU lost because they are not the better team. Shame on Huggy for indicting the refs. You know DAMN well he would not say a word if he were the recipient of the 35-2 FTs.
If I were the refs, I would respond to Huggy's accusations. This is unacceptable and the NCAA needs to get this under control. This is going to not only hurt KU against OU and UT, but it's going to hurt the refs for the remainder of the year. KSuck and even Ukrap is even getting in on the bandwagon. This is ridiculous in the middle of all the 'investigations.' This is out of control and it started with Higgins last year in the UK game. UK like WVU, LOST.
Now seriously you didn't think that seeing a 35-2 difference wouldn't cause a national stir? - I know your not that blind - -Everyone knew what this was going to cause - -legit or not - -and I'm not saying it is legit -- I'm not saying it isn't. - You didn't think K-State and Uk wouldn't jump on this plus about 350 other school's fan bases. - -Hell UK is always on us feeling that KU - Duke - -and North Carolina has a lovefest with the NCAA and ESPN
Let ask and be honest - would you be bitching if this game would of been played at WV and the free throw difference was in favor of 35-2 in favor of WV? - -come on you know you would - -there isn't a single KU fan that wouldn't be having a cardiac if this would of happened when we played at WV -- saying that WV gets away with murder in Morgantown - you know you would - let's be perfectly honest. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
@jayballer73 Sam is doing and saying the right things. Makes me think he might tough it out. Someone has to go for Agbaji though. I don't think we get Romeo.
Ya, I'm beginning to thin the same way, I'm just starting to get a feel that Romeo isn't coming. Could be possibly that the Coaching staff has already received word of this in some way and thus Agbaji .
I know Romeo's dad mentioned they wasn't going to be able to make a visit to KU - even though he has been here - -I just feel if someone is Seriously considering at this point they find a way to work it in - -we will be fine though still gonna be loaded. Would love to have him BUT -- -ROCK CHALKALL DAY LONG BABY
mayjay said:
@BShark Is that a shot of the bench or a dance routine on SNL?
LMAO - - - -stop that lol. - -Is kind of interesting to see Sam engaged and actually looking excited seeing as how his playing time has been zilch - -good to see. - -ROCK CHALK AL DAY LONG BABY
Wow -we played unbelievable defense. - -Yes there were calls missed. - - -Sorry but yes even with all their 3pt attempts- - - and as much trouble as we have had defending all year -WOW what a quick turnaround. - - We all know now that we have just added a fresh 50 gallon barrel of fuel about how we get the calls. - Yep missed calls both ways - -But man don't care how you twist it - -TWO free throw attempts for an entire game? TWO? kind of hard to absorb.
Then if you were to watch at half and listened - you would of heard Jay Williams little shot - -" can we get some fouls called - - can we get some fouls called " - -doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to figure out what he was talking about there. - I fully understand about the 3pt shooting and agree - BUT yet with the physicality on the inside there had to be more then 2 attempts for the game for WV. - this for sure gives us a yet another really bad look for games at Allen Field house and favorable calls.
Now on the other hand for all the WV fans that cry about how KU pays off the officals - - umm news flash - -The Conference assigns these officials - -not KU - -KU has nothing to do with who is assigned to these games so get over yourselves on that. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
elpoyo said:
jayballer73 said:
Once again we have heard pretty much how the Big 12 is the toughest conference in the Nation - -the # 1 conference. Just read a pretty good article off ESPN also stating as much.
hmmm...so when did ESPN become credible? i thought from all the posts there ESPN is garbage and they have no clue and all they do is kiss UNC and Duke's asses?
Big 12 the toughest conference? seriously? whatever you are smoking, i'll have it. WVU is garbage team and they proved it again today..JFC...how many times can a team lose from having a double digit lead. OU on a losing streak..they sucked to begin with, just catching up. TT is nothing more than an anomaly. When it does matter, they will shit the bed. Everyone else just blows. Just becuase KU has a down year doesn't automatically make the league tough. Give me a break...i'm tried of hearing this garbage. glad i don't come on here much.
BIG 12 is and has been the most overrated conference. You can point to all the articles and stats..but history speaks other wise.
HEY SPARKY haven't the opportunity to get introduced with ya. - So glad to meet your acquaintance, don't really think you need to be smoking anything I'm smoking thought - -seems like your pea brain is already fried. -BUT you are right about one thing - - ESPN does kiss ACC ass - sounds like you might be ACC your
self - -you kiss ass much?
I don't know just guessing but you say your glad you don't come here much? - - My hunch is there are probably quite a few that are glad too that you don't come on here - -how about this - -how about maybe even a little less yet - ya that's it - how about just don't come here at all. - -I like your vocabulary though - -how long did you go to school to spit out such high class conversation? -20? - -wait are you 20? - ok well thanks for the chat -maybe you need to lay down now - -take a nap - I know you have to be stressed - -have a great day - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
REHawk said:
@BeddieKU23 If Young's teammates could hit 42% of his attempted assists, Oklahoma would be in much better shape in the win column. RIght now the Sooners are led by a freshman whose deep shot has gone up in smoke. I would imagine that the Sooners will trudge into the field house with their dobbers down, then their two starting freshmen will combine for a dozen or so exciting 3s, and OK will push us to the buzzer....
We better be ready to D up in that game we just can't let theses guys go off. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONGBABY
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Trae Young is OU. This is basically the same supporting cast that finished 9th last year in the Big 12. Baylor is now sitting in 5th place at the moment, let that one sink in. The Big 12 is playing their way into being a 4 bid league right now.
actually so far today the Teams that need a MUST WIN today have achieved just that. - -Texas absolutely had to have that win - -they were in the last four in before that game - -need a little solidification - -K-State was 12 seed coming in today -- they needed a win to be more solid I don't think there is any way we only have 4 teams - we still looking at 6-7 teams, not really worried about that so much. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Oklahoma is now 16-10. That is all, carry on.
Beat ku and their deal with the devil finally ended.. 8 of 10 they have lost. Looked disfunctional, there is definitely chemistry issues on OU because of youngs attention
Seth Greenberg mentioned what you just said right after Young's 39 shot attempted night. - - Same thing - maybe not word for word, you said -- definitely chemistry issues - Greenberg said part of the reason for that was they going quit on Trae - gonna quit rebounding - quit passing it out to him - -actually the kid is just in a slump - -not that much different then Vick's slum[ - -Malik's slump - the ball just not going in right now.- -How many layups did he miss today - not hitting his 3's - although he did get a couple fairly late to go.
My worry is that he will come in Monday and just shoot lights out come out of his slump at our expense. - - ROC CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Which all this does will be just our luck Young will come out - - -Oklahoma will come out against us and just shoot - - - LIGHTS OUT.- -young will probably go off for 40 - -Oklahoma will shoot right at 50% - -figure that is how it will play out - they will play out of their a - -
Young has made like 4 out of his last 26 3pt attempts - -the announcers were saying teams their 2nd time through the league are just making him work harder .
The thing is if you watch this Oklahoma team - they have trouble defending and I saw multiple multiple times today where players were just jogging back on defense - -hell there were times where they played with 4 players on the defensive end. I saw young not even get to the offensive end at times - -both ends of the floor there were their players just lacking effort- -no fire it looked like at all. Bamba just ate them up on the defensive end like 5 blocks - - -17 rebounds. - We just need to be ready Monday for sure - but most of all we got to get after it tonight. - - - ROCK CHALKALL DAY LONG BABY
HighEliteMajor said:
Article at ESPN today -- http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22476693/roy-williams-confident-north-carolina-tar-heels-not-part-fbi-probe ↗
Roy Williams quote: "I feel very comfortable," Williams said while speaking to reporters in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. "If the phone rings at night, I'm not worried about that. I may worry about a lot of other things but it ain't about that."
Bill Self quote: "We're obviously all concerned for our profession," Self said. "I do not have any information to comment one way or another. Like I said, I hope the reports are not accurate, but whatever is found out we'll deal with it and were going to do all we can to make it better so we don't have to put ourselves in a position to be looked at in this manner again."
Roy's comment is basically, "UNC didn't do it." Self's comment is vague. Many ways to read that.
Ya. - - Again , just how comfortable do we feel about this? - -me? - - not so much - I think in some shape or form this is going to hit us. For what? - -I'm not really sure - -I just don't get a good feel. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Once again we have heard pretty much how the Big 12 is the toughest conference in the Nation - -the # 1 conference. Just read a pretty good article off ESPN also stating as much.
The article states that the Big 12 for the 5th consecutive season is the # 1 league in the Nation in terms of top to bottom statistical strength. Currently 8 teams entertaining realistic shots of being in the tourney, talking about how this weekend will go along ways in determining how the hopes play out. - Also stating for the rest of the season how the Big 12 will be the center of all the bubble drama as far as the tourney goes.
So with that being said and being proven that we are indeed the # 1 conference -- - -AGAIN at least accordingly statistically wise - -Friends it's time that this conference PROVE OURSELVES in the tourney - -back these things up.- - -We beat each other up all year and we here how tough it is in this league - -and we do beat each other up- -I agree and it is tough -BUT we have just got to back it up come tourney time we have got to prove ourselves.
To many years we get 6-7tteams in the tourney and then just wet all over ourselves and most are out by the 2nd weekend, then we get to hear - -once AGAIN about how our conference is so over rated - people saying no wonder why KU wins this league every year. - -we fold like cheap suits when it's time to stand up- --stand out. - We have got to put this baby to bed. I think we end up with 7 in the tourney - -we have got to show, back the facts up, make these other teams pay.
I don't know about you all but I for one am tired of hearing how our league is so over rated. - Its time for teams to step up - - Time for West Virginia to step up - - It's time for Texas Tech to step up - - -It's time for TCU to step up - - It's time for KU to STEP UP ! ! ! ! - no more of this one and done exits - we need to represented in the sweet sixteen - the elite 8 and even possibly final four. - -we need at least 3 teams in the sweet 16 possibly 2-3 teams in the elite 8.
I think KU - - Texas Tech -& - - - West Virginia need to carry this conference with respect show the Nation that YES we do play basketball here in the Midwest - .It's time to take accountability enough is enough-prove ourselves - show ourselves to yes truly be worthy of the title of the toughest conference - shut these clowns up. = = ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
nuleafjhawk said:
@kjayhawks The media has made such a big deal over WSU the past 2-3 years, trying to convince themselves that they're a real team. I'm sure the refs are benefiting very nicely, - ESPN probably bought Marshall's last house.
It took a gargantuan black/white effort to get past might Temple. Can't wait until they play some real teams.
They still have two games to play against Cincinnati those should be interesting.
I was watching this game when it happened. The kid had lined up for the free throws and the cheer leader and I watched the replay of the situation this morning and the cheerleader used his megaphone or whatever they call them things and he said -- NOT TODAY and then the kids name - -referring to him making the free throw.
The referee was quoted as saying he had been warned about this - -saying the kids name and ignored the warning - -continuing to do it- -so that is why he had him removed. - -that's the first time I've ever seen that happen lol. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
HighEliteMajor said:
@mayjay @jayballer73 Another thing, I think we all believe we know Bill Self. We hear him, he runs a great program, we trust him. Why? Because of years of equity.
I don't feel that way with our assistant coaches. It's not that I think any of them are bad folks, I just don't feel like I know them.
A scenario to consider. Remember when we were discussing Jerrance Howard? There was a point where many thought he was on shaky ground. The marijuana deal too. It is not a stretch that a guy whose job might be on the line, might do something secretive to hold his job. That's concerning in this environment, and knowing an Adidas rep could certainly sense weakness and try to capitalize on that with a possibly vulnerable assistant coach.
Again, I have not one reason to distrust any of the assistant coaches other than a general distrust of human nature in general.
Very well put. I too agree about Coach, I don't know maybe I'm just blind --but I also just feel that he would not be involved knowingly anyways - -as far as assistants? - that's a different possibility and yes Coach howard IF there were anything possibly because of some of his problems in the past with the weed - but yet still I would hope our group is better then that. - -However as big as this seems to be just gives me an uneasiness . Sure hope I'm wrong and were squeaky clean, - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
mayjay said:
@HighEliteMajor "The only reason – and I think we all can agree on this – that we would feel that we are immune is our unquestioning faith in Bill Self’s character. A quality of person that I believe is too strong and ethical to look the other way."
True about him, but I think most of us worry about some of the players' (and their families') susceptibility to temptation more than we do the staff, and the offerings to them by agents, boosters or other outsiders most of all.
true mayjay, -- -and when we talk about players and their families makes me have to think foremost possibly as been mention by some others - -makes me think possibly about Cliff and his family. - -That is one I'm concerned about. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY