@DanR Braun is from Burlington, originally. He and his family moved to Olathe so that he could improve as a player.
Marco
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BShark said:
@Marco I've got a buddy that is now involved with Sunrise. Kendall is a baller and likes KU a lot. I will share any updates on him that I can.
Would appreciate that.
I'll take Tristan over Hurt and Stanley any day of the week. He will ball at KU and in the NBA (Stanley will too, eventually), but what will Hurt do? Feeling real good about our class.
Hope with UCLA being down we might be able to steal a player or two from Cali in about 2 or 3 years.
drgnslayr said:
Believe me, I'm as giddy for Tristan as you are. Seeing him finish those drives to his left... wow... they are so fluid you have to hit the slo mo button just to see them! The kid is a phenom, but we also know what happens to freshman phenoms; sometimes the phenom shows up for games, other times it is the freshman. He's a guy we can almost be sure of him making a major contribution this year, but we will just have to wait and see when it comes to crunch time and I hope we are counting on other players with more experience to carry most of that weight.
I think we all worry a bit too much about this team. It's still November. Breakthroughs tend to come over the Christmas break when the guys get to put extended practice runs in. And then consider that we don't have a real powerful conference this year. Our guys should have plenty of time to get their act together before March.
I hope someone on our coaching staff realizes how to deal with Doke and his FT shooting. It's all in his head. He's been shown form, and he's been given reps using better form. Then he goes to the line and it looks like he's throwing a greasy fish at the goal. It's all about him maintaining emotional control. On the positive... I think someone is addressing this with him now. I still have hopes he will awaken his soul into the present and become a real monster this year including shooting better at the line! Doke has scary potential if he learns to play and live mindfully.
For this team I just hope they learn to play like their starving. It's hard for kids to keep a chip going all year. So hard to say what is best for them at this stage... maybe losing! Izzo sure knows how to play that card!
I don't think we're going to have to worry about this one hitting a wall, only up, up, up for him. It would be a shame for him to leave too early, though. Imagine what he will be come his junior year, if we get to see it - him, Braun and Wilson wrecking havoc.
I like the Agbaji - before he got hurt - of last year, who just played and was happy to much better than the one this year who seems to be overthinking things while dreaming of the NBA. Most players can deal with higher expections but some not, I hope Och is not the latter.
HighEliteMajor said:
@Marco So help me, how is this a "double-standard"? And so you know, the money isn't going to the NCAA. It goes to a charity of Wiseman's choice by the way. The NCAA doesn't need his $11,000.
@mayjay Not defending the NCAA time frames here fully, but if you're going to posture that deciding the Wiseman issue vs. the KU/Adidas stuff was even near the same level of complexity, then I'm not sure really what to say there -- if that's what the "cud" comment means. Of course, we really didn't fully cooperate. We weren't fully "transparent." We know that. There was a federal trial. There was waiting for that to conclude. On other items, I can't quite figure it out. This one, I'm more understanding.
Lol! Then he should start the Broke College Athlete Fund Foundation...
FarmerJayhawk said:
ajvan said:
@HighEliteMajor I find the distinction pretty blurry, maybe because I'm not taking the time to parse the definitions involved ("booster," etc). What irritates me more is how the Wiseman judgment happened in a matter of days while Silvio had to wait months.
It’s blurry because the NCAA doesn’t differentiate in its own bylaws or penalty schedule. There is no distinction. Period. The NCAA just makes it up as they go. So Wiseman has until April to pay back $11k while not permitted to make any money and maintain eligibility. I don’t know what his mom does for a living but I doubt she’s got that kind of cash just laying around.
Thank you, was thinking the exact same thing - that would have to be one hellacious part-time job for Wiseman the broke college athlete to have that kind of cash laying around, now wouldn't it? How much do you want to bet that the NCAA will be all in favor of - having no qualms at all - Mr. Wiseman even borrowing the money, so long as it goes into their coffers. I smell a bigtime stinky double-standard fart.
@Hawk8086 That's kind of where I'm at. I knew that coming in Tristan was a future pro, but thought we'd have him for atleast two and possibly even three years. Now, well, I'm not so sure.
Not often that a good player (atleast not a highly rated one) comes out of Nebraska - snag, if we can. If memory serves wasn't TJ Pugh the last Nebraska kid to don a KU uniform?
BShark said:
@Marco https://247sports.com/Player/Harrison-Ingram-46056681/ ↗
This kid, JWill, Gethro and Jossell all play for the same AAU team. Adidas program and their HC is a long time friend of Bill.
That's some good info, appreciate it.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
That was for Jossell I believe.
Staff is after Frank Anselem as he may reclassify into 20. Reading some things it would sound as if they prefer he'd stay in 21 where they would have the best chance of landing him. If he goes into 20 looks like LSU is the front runner
Yeah, I got to know about Jossell in advance due to a friendship not that it was even really a secret.
I hope you guys liked his commitment video edit. :D
Hard to see Anselem getting away from LSU regardless.
Kendall Brown @BShark is a playah! We have got to sign him. I'm all in on signing the KC area and Sunrise kids, ditto keeping the Wasatch pipeline open.
BShark said:
justanotherfan said:
He's athletic, which is nice, but he's also small, so all of my normal complaints about smaller guards apply.
He can shoot it, but at his size, he's going to have to become a primary ball handler. He simply cannot rely only on off ball skills at the collegiate level. That won't cut it because he likely won't be able to guard bigger guys, even with his above average athleticism.
In all honesty, though, I think this kid should be ranked higher. He's small, but he can shoot, he can handle, and he is very athletic for his size. Looking at a couple of the dunks that he has thrown down, I am surprised he is only a three star. I would have pegged him as a low four star based on the eye test. He should be top 150 IMHO, borderline top 100.
Agree he will have to develop into a PG.
The crazy thing to me is that before KU sniffed around and even after up until his commitment this kid was completely unranked. Didn't even have a 24/7 profile. He did have a Rivals profile but 0 stars/ranking. I am not saying this is a huge miss like Burke, Oladipo, Morant etc because he is not on that level but to be completely unranked was shocking to me.
Agreed. Even if he were a total scrub (which he is not), there should and would be some kind of ranking, right? I trust Coach, he wouldn't offer if the kid couldn't contribute in some way - an aside thought, is there someone other than Muscadin that Jossell knows who HCBS would like to sign?
@wissox You are important to this site, and contribute alot. Don't sign off.
HighEliteMajor said:
BShark said:
24/7 ran out and got Jossell ranked
https://247sports.com/player/latrell-jossell-46096517/ ↗
333 in the class, #324 composite.
When I was giving the anti-OAD speech, this was not what I had in mind.
Lol! Me neither.... But he can shoot.
@BShark True. How many 6'9 to 7'0 guys do you even see walking around?
BShark said:
HighEliteMajor said:
I know we all like Garrett. But I think Garrett is one of those players that possibly blocks a team from reaching its potential when he plays too many minutes. On a Bill Self run team, Garrett is "pet" like. Meaning he's easy to love because he's smart, defense is great, and has high intangibles.
I see next season and my first, favorite lineup is Thompson, Agbagi, Wilson, Enaruna, DeSousa. All in on the 4/1. Dave instead of DeSousa ok too. Rotate that.
Now, the uncertainty with Wilson makes that a bit grey. Bring Garrett off the bench at the 2-4 spots. Play 20 minutes. Garrett played 26 minutes and was a nothing offensively Friday. But I more focus on the Duke game where, once again, the defense didn't care about him at the three point line. Heck, in that game, he played 36 minutes, shot 38% from two and didn't even take a three.
The consistent production of the 3/2 concept is severely challenged with Garrett on the floor.
Garrett is the kind of player that, when played too much, really limits a team offensively as it stands now.
I had a Garrett thread. I don't remember what I called it but this is a large amount of my point. IE on a great KU team Garrett is a nice bench piece.
Last year we really had to play Garrett especially after all the issues. This year we are currently at 9 guys, so he's going to play.
Even with having to play him last year, KU was markedly worse with him on the floor vs off. People will blames the turnovers against Duke and rightfully so but Garrett was a big part of the loss as well.
Unfortunately Marcus is basically Jamari on steroids.
Oh man, Coach Marco like the Garrett debate. Better get @jayballer73 in on this one. As I recall, he is not a big Garrett fan.
We now have a great 4 man recruiting class - Coach did it again. @BShark you gave the 👀, who else do you think we're going to sign.
BeddieKU23 said:
Love what I'm seeing
Ditto. Still think he might redshirt (I think you said that)?
Woodrow said:
@jayballer73 came out late this morning that Memphis ruled him ineligible and is holding him out until there is ruling from the NCAA
It doesn't matter, the damage is done. Pretty stupid of them to play a guy who was ruled ineligible - they will pay dearly for it.
@wissox Not just losing... They got their asses handed to them.
BeddieKU23 said:
COHawk said:
Hasn't Enaruna shown up on some draft boards?
2nd round next year but that's going to change if he continues to have a big role and produce.
Enaruna is a sure fire future first rounder, possibly even a lottery pick. We will be lucky if he sticks around past year two.
jayballer73 said:
I read this from a poster off the phog. - -He had this for NEXT year's line up. - -Said he would like to see - Can't say I really disagree - - think it looks pretty goo to me. - -It went like this :
Pg : - - -Garrett/ Harris
Sg :- - - Thompson / Braun
Sf :- - - Agbaji ? Grant Foster
Pf :- - - Enaruna ? Wilson
C :- - - McCormack / LightfootI could live with that. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I could too, no doubt.
HighEliteMajor said:
I personally think it is just the nature of basketball. Basketball, at all levels, is very prone to "runs" and swings in momentum. I see this happening all over the country on a regular basis. To me, it seems that it always has. Basketball is a hard game to manage with a lead.
It helps to have D, though. Tech is doing it just fine.
BShark said:
@Marco I think Wilson's best, and likely primary role is as a 4 under Bill. Marcus/Perry type but will likely take more threes than those two. From what we've seen I just don't think he is a guard/wing. Probably won't have the handles to be that at KU.
Oh and totally agree on Enaruna. His potential is enormous.
I see the same in Wilson, a stout guy without much handle who can rebound and shoot if open, but has trouble getting open if the ball is in his hands.
mayjay said:
Marco said:
Stale blood in the assistant ranks?
Interesting point. I wonder if one of them will "decide" to retire during this NCAA stuff, which would, of course, make the NCAA unable to compel his testimony about his conversations....
But, that aside aside (yes, not a typo), the assistant coaches -- especially JH -- do an amazing job of recruiting in addition to skills and bench coaching. Norm seems less animated than before, but the others still are energetic, but I can't see how ass't coaches would undermine a cutthroat drive to polish the opponent off.
I think that it could be. Compared to the lockdown D that we were known for during Coach's first 8 or 9 years what we put out on the court now is nothing. The vibe during that time was just electric, and the offense fed off of it.
Beard was definitely paying attention under Knight, for sure. Wasn't that his mentor, Bobby Knight? All of of those switches and that D.
BShark said:
@Marco I think his potential is fantastic. I would bet on him starting to play as a RS SO then possibly starting the year after.
I'm pretty excited about our frontcourt future, no doubt. I like Braun, Enaruna and Muscadin alot, their ability (Enaruna is only going to get better) to run and handle, stretch the floor. It is all good in Bill Land. A damn shame about Wilson, it will be interesting to see what his role might be come next year.
BeddieKU23 said:
Bossi watched possible 2021 reclass Tre White. Bossi Had this to say.
Ryan on the Phog also said that when he committed he would be surprised if Tre sticks and goes to KU. Time will tell.
"Ranked in the top 40 nationally, White is a power wing who has a big body and combines some bounce with power. What struck me most was his skill level. He did some things with the ball (stepbacks, hesitations, changes of pace and direction) that I'd not seen from him in the past and he shot the ball with confidence. He backed up his lofty national status."
Man, I hope we can keep him. It has been a long while since we had a guy like that.
BShark said:
Marco said:
Muscadin is going to play,, alot....
No way. Probably redshirts as he just isn't ready. He couldn't get off the bench at Sunrise.
I give you that... It is his skillset though that makes me feel otherwise. He can bring a changeup coming off the bench at both the 5 and 4.
We have lacked defensive intensity for quite a few years now (what, about 7?), and it's a problem. I think that it needs to be priority again. Cause? Stale blood in the assistant ranks?
Boom...! THE Recruit that I most wanted out of this cycle. It's all good...
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Imagine if only Dotson goes.
Would be a great roster to play 4 out.
Guards/Wings: Harris, Thompson, Garrett, Agbaji, Grant-Foster, Enaruna, Wilson, Braun
5s: Dave/Silvio/Mitch
Cryo-ice Deep Bench: Muscadin
Muscadin is going to play,, alot....
jayballer73 said:
DCHawker said:
@nuleafjhawk I'm not sure what @jayballer73 's problem is, but if Self were to leave, I agree with you and would definitely have Bennett number 1 on the list to replace. Without a doubt one of the best half dozen or so coaches in the game right now. Gets his players to commit to playing suffocating defense every possession of every game. Has won consistently without as much top tier talent as teams the Cavaliers face most nights in conference games (although the talent level has picked up the past few years). He's had 13 players drafted - 3 last year.
And, there is the small matter of being the most recently minted NCAA champion. Even more impressive in some respects is the fact that the Cavaliers have won the ACC regular season title 4 of the past 6 years - in a much, much tougher conference (certainly at the top) year in and year out than the B12.
I don't give a rats as about aesthetics myself - in fact, I enjoy watching teams struggling to score against them and routinely getting shot clock violations. And, Self likes to win ugly games, as well.
It's not a matter of choosing Bennett over Self or saying he is a better coach - but rather, who would be on the very short list of candidates to replace him. I have zero doubt that Bennett would be very successful at KU. Whether we could get him if Self left is another matter...
ummm HELLO you read? - - - like he pointed out him self - - we are not talking about who replacing who if who was to leave - - maybe start back at the 1st of this and see where it said anything about replacing lol - - -My problem with people like yourself almost coming the way it comes across is that trying to say Bobby Bennet is better so save the bs HAVE A GREAT NIGHT
I don't want Self to go anywhere, but if he did my first choice would be Archie Miller.
jayballer73 said:
nuleafjhawk said:
WAIT!! OH------MY GAWD................JUMPIN JEEE HO SO FAT-
BENNETT WON ..........7 MONTHS AGO ------ SELF WON ----HOLY SMOKE --------------------------12 YEARS AGO.
If you don't think Bennett is a good coach - you might want to re-think that. You don't hear me and others saying that we want him to replace Self - just that he's a damn good coach. Get over yourself.
as a famous individual said - -" JUMPIN GEE HOSSA FATS -- - -OH -- MY GAWD - - do you really think people care how long ago the title was one whether it ws yesterday or the day before yesterday - -it STILL is ONE CHAMPIONSHIP - -SPARKY. lmaoCoach Self has help at minimum place at least 23 players in the NBA - - Coach Self in the time he has been here has like you so quite nicely wanted to point out - - Self has EIGHT - -let me type it again so even you get it - -EIGHT 30 plus win Seasons - - Bennet ummm not so much - - - four, - -I've heard people o here saying they would like to see Bennet Coach here - -just fricken insane - -his fricken style of ball is like watching the FRICKIN GRASS GROW - -snooze ball - -you want to watch/support that style of ball in the years of 2,000 here is an idea subscribe to the ACC network and knock yourself out.
Bennett is no Coach Self - -I don't give a rats ass whether one year ago - or twenty years ago - -A Championship last year is no more valuable then 10 it's STILL just ONE NCAA Championship - -get over yourself roflmfao. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - - OH , OH , OH -- wait oh ya - -have a great night
That's what I like about you @jayballer73, your tendency to hold back Lol.... It makes Coach Marco want - just for fun! - to bring back the Marcus Garrett discussion.
@jayballer73 Yeah, and the NCAA will no like, bet on that. Goodbye Penny..!
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk any reason to be concerned about Bryce taking a last minute visit with Cade to Okie St? Doesn’t seem good to me...
I’m not that worried. Think Okie Lite is bringing up the rear
Isn't that what they always do?
Is anyone doubting Braun now? The kid will - I'm calling it - be in the NBA in three to four years, ditto Enaruna (even sooner).
@nwhawkfan I'm a geek, too. Which reminds me, I need to go out and buy my Street & Smith's and Athlon yearbooks (for real) - thanks for the reminder. I've always enjoyed the yearbooks.
@BShark Hurt will score, oh,,, about 11,, tops.
FarmerJayhawk said:
I'm less worried about Hurt. He's not a super mobile stretch 4. He's super skilled and kind of soft with average athleticism. Silvio is certainly quick enough to hang with him. I think Silvio is a defensive 4 and an offensive 5, skill wise. Actually sort of worried about Doke getting out on the perimeter if they stretch Carey and he decides to try at basketball.
But I'm not worried at all on the other end of the floor. If K decides to zone us we'll eat them alive on the boards and get plenty of second chance points. Watch out for a bunch of lobs behind the zone (might be a situation where Hurt gets teabagged...) I think our perimeter defense will be a shock to them as well. Tre Jones isn't a great offensive player and Moore/Stanley won't light you up. Only risk is if a guy like Jack White or Alex O'Connell gets stupid hot.
Going to say Jayhawks 71 Rutgers South 62
Thank you! Bully the hell out of Hurt with a Silvio, Enaruna and possibly, at times, even Big Dave - keep him out of his confort zone. I have us winning by 12.
HighEliteMajor said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich Our best lineup is absolutely NOT a four guard lineup. Our best lineup is a traditional 3 out, 2 in look. Self's hi/lo is the perfect fit. We just have to impose our will and stop saying we can't guard the 4. We can.
That doesn't mean we can't or won't play four guards. In fact, switching it up here and there is certainly reasonable.
But to impose our will, and not be imposed upon, it's 2 bigs all the way.
Agree. Let them try to match up with us, which I don't think they can. I am tired of the small ball lineups, and now that we have frontcourt depth and talent it is still our best option? I don't think so. We will beat Duke by 12 points.
approxinfinity said:
I haven't caught any of the exhibition games. Too much going on here and didn't want to spend money on watching half games against creampuffs.
I'm ready for Duke! Is our team ready for Duke guys?
We're ready, alright.... And Braun and Enaruna are going to play alot this year.
FarmerJayhawk said:
HighEliteMajor said:
kjayhawks said:
I agree with it but man it would stink for him if we get a postseason ban next year.
Ruling on penalties likely April. We appeal and appeals are usually done in 6 or so mos which would be before the 2021 tourney. Your concern about missing the 2021 tourney is a very real possibility.
In fact, with the current NOA, it seems like a certainly.
Also assuming we don’t go to court and a court doesn’t stay the sanctions pending litigation.
KU will take it to court if the corrupt thing tries try to hammer us, and we would win. In all honesty, if it were to go to court, there is so much that can be brought up and so many cans of inadmissable worms to be opened, and while those cans may be inadmissable the court would see them none the less - a lose, lose for the NCAA.
kjayhawks said:
@HighEliteMajor it will be really upsetting because it’s supposed to return to Wichita that year. But the other side of the coin is the NCAA may want to sell that place out again.
Lol..! And you're probably right.
If we get Thompson I can live with that recruiting class.
FarmerJayhawk said:
The right is entering dangerous territory with the increasing bent toward blood and soil nationalism and populism. They’ve vastly overcorrected for the left’s embrace of identity politics by embracing it themselves. They should’ve remained the liberal, free market party instead of embracing this MAGA/trade war/restrictionism/white identity politics claptrap. Leaves us normal liberals kind of homeless.
It is a good thing then that I am not a single issue voter, and instead look at our nation and world for what they are by using my mind instead of my heart and vote accordingly. I am a big picture kind of guy, understanding that every single issue is not only about today, but also tomorrow.
I have a clear view of what I want our country to be in one hundred years, and present day sanctuary city Seattle is certainly not the model - squalor doesn't work and isn't good.
And with all of the above being said Trump will win re-election by a margin even larger than what he won by against the thing that I will refuse to name and just refuses to - Lol! - fucking go away... By the way, borders are good and necessary - countless wars, including two world ones, have been fought trying to fend off invaders infringing upon the sovereignty of other nations.
It is damn near insane and quite pathetic how the democrats - and I am not a republican, by the way - seem to view such things as trivial. It seems that they are only trying to ensure the survivor of their party, nation be damned, while enlarging the rot that is the inner city. By the way, did KU beat Pitt State?
bskeet said:
kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk Yep both have plenty of Corruption. The left and the right wing belong to the same bird.
Let's just hope the two wings don't kill the bird while fighting amongst each other.
They are (have been for about forty years now) doing a bang up job of it so far - killing the bird that they are the weak appendages of, that is. Ask the dodo what happens to large and dumb, flightless birds.
Yeah, left wing, right wing, broken wing, any wing, lack of iron and or sleeping... I dump on everyone, because I know everything and have all of the answers. One of my ideas, for example, is that I am not for the expansion of something, anything, when it doesn't work and or isn't any good.