9 TO's, 6 assists. If a lot of TO's came on passes, the team might still be figuring out how to mesh with him.
It took awhile for the Kings to get shooters who could convert Nate Archibald's assists. But if Trae is just passing badly, or losing dribbles while being spectacular, he needs to ratchet it down.
@HighEliteMajor I was hoping we would try to foul, but maybe HCBS was leery of the 4 pt play or 3 FTs which can provide 2 pts and a putback opportunity. If the player trying to foul isn't guarding exceptionally closely right before fouling, a quick shooter can get a shot away. And Dayton's guys were very quick at it.
I still blame the Michigan game on the pouch punch by EJ, but I get your point.
Nice! But how do we upvote an entire thread?!!!
@HighEliteMajor "Bill Walton is a guy that is fun to listen to … for about 5 minutes."
Ah, to be so carefree and young. My remaining life is too precious to waste that much time. I lasted 20 seconds...that I can't get back.
@madmaxKU Where have you been the past 2 years? You are certainly eloquent, so I am surprised you have only started posting again in this politics forum. The adidas clusterf--- could have used some interesting observations.
@HighEliteMajor Oh, no, I was just replying and supporting your point that the Memphis facts apparently did not need lots of investigation. The "cud" comment was directed to the fact that the phone allegation was really the only serious new thing that the complaint contained (we suspected or had read the rest previously, knowing what we did from the trial), yet the NOI took so long they must have been straining with the issue awhile.
@Marco The NCAA is aware that players cannot go out and earn these payback amounts. I believe the rules are that the school can loan him the money but it has to be paid back by the end of the year in which his incoming class graduates, even if he doesn't stay in school. But I think it also requires the athlete to leave school in good standing or the school faces retroactive sanctions. I don't know what. I remember posting the rule on this awhile ago, and I dunno if I have the details correct.
@HighEliteMajor As I recall, one of the aggravating factors in the coach allegation is the claim that Bill did not turn over his phone for quite a while after their adidas investigation began. The NCAA probably had to chew their cud on that for an additional 6 months.
@rockchalkwyo Moving can also include rental security deposits on the new place and payments of outstanding balances to the old place. Moving a household with furniture doesn't usually happen for less than a few grand!
@BShark Love all references to The 'Stache!
@DanR My brother moved to MARE'-vuhl.
Until our young guards learn to drive better, Garrett's quickness and ability to drive for a bucket, and his passing to the post, will help keep the other team from playing D all the way out to the 3 pt line, as they cheat back to help. This can open up our 3 pt offense a bit even if he doesn't shoot any himself, but if he can get better at laying it up both LH and RH (i.e., more unpredictable), it will be more significant.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Enough guys! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Let's move on!
I thought in social media it was "Everyone is entitled to MY own opinion." The other version almost seems like a polite anachronism!
It was a legal play, and had he not acted like an ass afterwards, I would have little to say about it. Had he acted like "Hey, what did you expect me to do? I am the opponent!" he could have gotten away with it. But that "I don't give a f--" was too inflamed, as if he thought KU had been running up the score.
@Crimsonorblue22 No difference of op on this! I was just thinking that Bill would have been more upset about our letting it happen. No controversy if Tristan pays attention and does his job. It is different to show up another team (Self rightfully mad at Greene) than to have a pathetic attempt made at showing you up when you have won by 53 pts.
Other coach: rightfully embarrassed. Self: Shakes his head.
@Crimsonorblue22 Actually, he did comment publicly about it. From Kyle Boone's CBS article I just saw:
Self [had] called [Greene's dunk] "classless," but Friday he refrained from attacking Papas and instead pointing to the lack of ball security from Enaruna.
"We've been on Tristan the whole time about being casual, and that's a prime example of what happens when you're casual," he said. "I told the team afterwards he may be on ESPN twice for two dunks: One on him and one he got."
No one has mentioned that Bill probably made it explosively clear to Tristan in the locker room that the greater sin on the play was thinking you can stop paying attention with 13 seconds left.
BShark said:
1000% is a lot. Like, more than 110% even.
One would think that 1000% means absolutely. But we who lived then know that 1972 changed the mathematics of percentages for ever.
It is an anomaly not fully understood, like dark matter.
@dylans "I’ll save future indignation until the punishment is handed down."
Don't take off venting your spleen for too long. You need to go through preliminary indignation practice before the proceedings begin so that you are in full-bore shape when it counts.
Actually, reading @HighEliteMajor 's post about Nerf dunk games in the other thread, high ceilings are good for everyone!
@dylans In Silvio's case, they seem to have held him accountable for his guardian shopping him around and accepting money to go to 2 different schools. Even if it was technically just the $2,500 for extra courses.
Nice when really tall guys have high ceilings.
@QuintLeo Shocked, after this week, that you wrote that truncated list. How 'bout Evansville?
Those pictures make me think he is drastically left-eye dominant, but right handed. He is lining up on the left side but using his right hand, creating that godawful crossing motion when he shoots it.
I have the same problem. When I was a kid, I did everything righthanded (still do) except for shooting a rifle. Even with glasses, the left eye image was the one that my brain received. Closing my left eye to shut off the parallax view didn't help--the right eye image was sharp but my muscles didn't control it steadily enough to focus on the target.
When I started shooting left handed, which took some practice because I was using muscles the opposite of what I was used to, I won some ribbons at camp.
This matters because humans, like all animals that evolved to be hunters, use the different angle of their eyes to the target (the parallax) to create depth perception. I actually had to go to an ophthalmologist for about 20 straight weeks in 4th grade to learn how to compensate for the dominance and how to perceive depth properly. Most people develop this naturally, but it is usually considered a problem for one-eyed people, not us with both. The condition is unusual.
I think I have noticed that a consistent factor for Doke is that his FTs end up short. If so, poor depth perception, coupled with poor form, could be the result. Certainly his inability to make any outside shots beyond 5 to 8 feet suggests something. He might line up properly in practice, but revert under pressure to the eye that give him the most definitive image. Maybe he should try shooting left handed.
Incidentally, I no longer have the same issues. Lasik surgery made me farsighted, and that changed the ability of my left eye to be ultradominant. I can't shoot worth crap either way now!
Just a thought. I was thinking about Wild Thing in the movie Major League.
Frank averaging 6.5 TOs after 2 games.
Playing for the Wisconsin Herd. @wissox You going to catch some of his games? Get out the dogsled and mush on up there? (I don't even know where "up there" is for the Herd....)
ajvan said:
@BShark The Athletic is a class act. Their coverage of anything sports is usually the best I read anywhere. Now they just need to sign Jesse Newell.
Might have to consider subscribing now that Sports Illustrated has been sold, half their staff fired, and the new business plan is designed around generating Web clicks by using lots of independent local stringers reporting on local teams.
Sad time in sports journalism.
@wissox "The O gets complacent."
I have noticed that these things happen when we tend to look like we are scared offensively. Less freedom of movement, tentative dribbling, and telegraphed passing seem to be from the fear of making mistakes--and ironically causes them. The whole Duke game seemed like that. As if everyone is diagramming plays on their minds and going over them a couple of times before executing them. (Except, of course, for the plays where they seemed to have no idea what to do, like the crazy jump passes under the basket--"Uh oh, now what? THROW IT!")
Marco said:
Stale blood in the assistant ranks?
Interesting point. I wonder if one of them will "decide" to retire during this NCAA stuff, which would, of course, make the NCAA unable to compel his testimony about his conversations....
But, that aside aside (yes, not a typo), the assistant coaches -- especially JH -- do an amazing job of recruiting in addition to skills and bench coaching. Norm seems less animated than before, but the others still are energetic, but I can't see how ass't coaches would undermine a cutthroat drive to polish the opponent off.
drgnslayr said:
Nothing about the fact that Kansas will be appealing whatever the NCAA decides and might even litigate their current threat.
Yeah, the talk with Long might have convinced him this process won't even effect next year if the appeals and lawsuits drag it out for years. I usually hate delay tactics in litigation, but after the NCAA inexplicably screwed us and the kids over with their refusal to rule in a reasonable time on Diallo, Billy, and SDS (twice), I have no qualms about cheering on every possible strategy to extend it out until the NCAA staff dies of old age.
A question for discussion:
Many games during, say, the past 6 years have seen KU make our signature runs off to a 12 or 15 or even 20 point lead. Then, it seems too often, we seem to let up on the gas and the other team--often of substantially lower pedigree--comes clawing back. With 4 minutes or so to go, we suddenly have a lead that is back to single digits. This past game, it got down to 10 when Tristan sank the 3 that allowed easier breathing. Sometimes, though, we end up losing an especially disappointing heartbreaker.
So, my topic is twofold:
First, what causes this? It has occurred while having two hard-as-nails determined All Americans. It has occurred when having seemingly less bull-headed players. The talent has varied, but the lack of a killer instinct seems consistent. Is it something in Self's late game strategy? Different defense (like football teams that adopt the dreaded "prevent defense" that prevents nothing)? His personality that conveys relaxing to the team?
Secondly, do all teams do this, and I just don't notice because I don't follow their games as consistently? Is it just the normal ebb and flow of every game, but I am more sensitive because of my emotional connection to KU?
It is easy to forget he only played 9 games last year. Barely had a chance to get in the flow of everything, and he missed Big 12 play, which must have been horrible considering the season results. Coming back healthy from his second injury has heightened expectations among fans (title, anyone?), and the pressure on him as well. A few more games should result in his getting more comfortable in all phases of the game. He has looked like a deer in the headlights so far. Give him some time before consigning his efforts to the trash heap.
@Crimsonorblue22 I blame Reid for everything on that series. 3rd and 2 trying to run the clock in field goal range, need a field goal to ice it. You don't freaking pass! You run it, then kick. Or, if you want to run the clock, you run it on 4th down, too. Even the Chiefs should be able to get 2 yards in 2 plays. BUT YOU DON'T FREAKING PASS AND GO BACKWARDS 17 YARDS IN THOSE 2 PLAYS!
Okay, rant over. I am now okay because I know not to expect anything from a team that has such dumb coaching.
Oops, mixed up my plays with so many disgusting ones to choose from. I was referring to the score by Henry with about 6.5 mins left and Titans needing 2 scores to win.
True story: I explained to my wife in the 3rd quarter why the punter gets the snap on a FG. Some bullshit about how they are sure-handed and ready to take quick action like a pooch kich if the snap is bad...
I would just like to know how many people with more than one brain cell:
1) facing a team needing a touchdown to win
2) which team has 25 seconds left, zero timeouts, and needs a touchdown to win
3) which team has a behemoth running back who has battered through your defense like a Sherman tank and will obviously go to him
4) since the team has a 2nd down and only 1/2 yard to score,
would play a linebacker 5 yards deep in the end zone while leaving a single defensive lineman facing 2 offensive lineman over a 12 foot wide section to the left of the center?
@loota Nice info. But how on earth did you find a four-year old thread to which to add?
Disregarding NCAA concerns about Rose cost Memphis their F4 appearance and the rest of their wins in 2008.
Short memories on that campus?
@jayballer73 No one seems to know about him, or JayhawkFanToo, for that matter, as far as I have heard.
Interestingly, for a guy who has made his coaching career a study in low scoring games, look who is atop the career 3 pt percentage list, and by far. Good shot selection was likely his forte, and he no doubt passes that on at UVA. Also a 2-time Academic All-American, FWIW.
(I dunno if someone passed him since this NCAA guide from 2016-17.)
Sports comment sites always seem to bring out the lunatic in all of us. Never enough to disagree. An opinion always has to be stated with utter certainty and be insultingly dismissive of any other.
Who needs family Thanksgivings for absurd drama anymore?
@dylans "So you’re saying Duke fans are fair weather fans…unwilling to watch unless they are the favorite."
Yup!
@KirkIsMyHinrich Not something to get your nose out of joint. Vegas is trying to stimulate equal betting on both teams. ESPN is trying to stimulate interest in the telecast, so making Duke the favorite likely gives Duke fans reason to watch. And with the 5 stars vs 4 stars battle, it is not unreasonable.
@bcjayhawk Fantastic! Thank you el mucho!
@bcjayhawk Subscription only. ☹
@bskeet Just delete it, would be my choice. It is just stupid since no adjudication has occurred anyway.
Not on the NBC sports mens' bb page.
But, but....socialism and stuff!
Works out mutually beneficial. Kid wants to go, school pulls the schollie, both sides keep any extra incentives provided/received quiet, kid keeps eligibility and school doesn't get sanctioned.
Usually works out well, that is.
Maybe Miles knows something about Stanley we don't. Great performance by everyone.
nuleafjhawk said:
I was the QB of my undefeated intramural flag football team from 1979 - 1982. I'll give it a whirl. If the price is right !! I mean, I ain't giving these undefeated services away ya know....
Your team probably had a better offensive line.
The hiatus for Mahomes gives our O line a chance to heal before he comes back. Moore might get beat up, so we should sign about 4 interim guys.
I already pointed out one irony of PM's injury. Here is another: How many of us going into last night's game were more afraid of Mahomes getting hurt by a dumb coach than by a series of sacks like he suffered through in last week's game?
approxinfinity said:
Is it pronounced Jethro? I geth tho.
That should be "I jeth tho."