BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Wow. I am completely shocked. Wonder what Grimes and Dotson think about this....
Will be interesting to see how all this plays out.
I don't think Dotson and Grimes are too worried. Zero chance Cunliffe plays now though and I bet Agbaji takes a RS.
Yea I agree with both. Sam has to be very disappointed. I think I’ve seem the word “stunner” about 5 different times on Twitter already. Really bizarre situation.
Wow. I am completely shocked. Wonder what Grimes and Dotson think about this....
Will be interesting to see how all this plays out.
Yes. He has already passed a polygraph test.
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Cross another target off. He’s referencing KU in this tweet.
Self is putting so extremely lofty expectations on Dedcric this year. I mean it’s first team AA or bust at this point!
I will say that mostly what Self says in the Summer is pretty calculated and probably should be taken with a grain of salt. However, I’m fully expecting 22 / 10 and prayer of the year at this point. 😃
Would have been a great hire. Hopefully not a ominous sign.
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Girod and KU just got turned down by the AD at SMU.
justanotherfan said:
A Beaty firing means KU starts completely over for the fourth time this decade, which resets the clock on being competitive back to zero.
That mass exodus that @Woodrow mentioned will mean that scholarship numbers will be back at first year levels when Beaty started (65ish scholarship players). That will take two more years for KU to even get back to a full compliment of scholarships, then a couple of years after that to be Power 5 competitive.
That's a nightmare scenario, as it pushes KU being competitive in the Big 12 all the way out to 2023 or so.
I agree 100%. I am on the record saying they need to ride Beaty out for this year and see what happens. The Louisiana pipeline that he and Hull are building is a real thing and that will be gone with his firing.
If this year there is no true sign of progress and is a complete dumpster fire then the new AD's hand is going to be forced and back to square 1 we go.
I really hope that the AD they hire has a connection to a decent coach. I saw where the SMU AD was rumored if you could get him and Chad Morris that would work.
Kcmatt7 said:
@Woodrow I would be shocked if someone came in and didn't bring their own guy in to be OC.
Beaty being fired and Hull becoming OC with a new HC seems like a pipe dream. I could see him still being an assistant, but not at the level of OC.
I completely agree. I honestly wasn't sure if he was being serious. Thinking Hull will be elevated to the OC with a new HC is laughable.
@Texas-Hawk-10 You think the next coach is going to come in and make Hull the OC??
This was a good get by the staff. LeGendre will bolt when / if Beaty is fired. He is a big time talent so that will suck, but there will be a mass exodus if Beaty is let go.
@Kcmatt7 I agree with you on this. If someone has committed a crime and fulfilled their punishment then they deserve a second chance.
I remember all the Chiefs fans in a uproar when they drafted Ty Hill. All of them saying I am not going to cheer for the Chiefs anymore and I am not going to go to another game. Now they chant his name on punt returns and you see his jerseys all over town.
Probably longer than if LeBron stays. With LBJ it’s championship or bust. Without him it’s a rebuild. If he shows he can coach and teach young players which they haven’t had then he will stick around.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Chalmers #34, Mason! #34, Graham #34...KU’s lucky number?
That's pretty wild!
@JayHawkFanToo Would have been something to see how far he would have fallen had the Kroenke's not been there to save him.
There has to be some serious red flags in his medical for him to fall that far.
@JayHawkFanToo I saw a quote where Ayton said he basically signed with Puma because of the money. Had nothing to do with anything else.
@kjayhawks I agree. I doubt I watch one second of the WC. I loved soccer as a kid. I played for 6-7 years and just could care less about it now.
If kids were not forced to sit out a year it would just be open recruiting season all year long. Self has been asked about this and I think his comment was there would be recruiting in the handshake lines after games. It would ridiculous. If there is not a coaching change and or a family issue kids need to sit out a year. If you don't want to be recruited over go to a school where you know you can compete.
@Texas-Hawk-10 people are extremely over reacting to LeBron owning a house in LA. He’s not going to the Lakers. If he leaves Cleveland it is going to be to a team that has established superstars that can compete for titles.
Why would LeBron go to LA? They are terrible. Approximately zero chance he goes to LA.
Losing out on JRE would be one tough one to swallow. Kid is a beast and Self and co have invested so much time. I think they will get the job done.
If LeBron leaves Cleveland which I think he will I think he ends up in Boston or Philadelphia. Doesn’t make sense to join a team in the West unless it’s Houston.
@BShark yep. Would have loved to have seen Paul play that whole series.
I actually would be more surprised if he didn’t play. If he was under the impression that he was not going to play I would think he would have left school and gone to Europe or somewhere else to play.
Good to see SDS getting in some work.
Yep. This is not surprising. I am do not know why anyone thought there was a chance for him to come back. Like I said in another thread Self does not want him back.
@HawkChamp who said they scheduled a meeting?
Self doesn’t want him back. It would be a miracle if he ended up back at KU.
This is exactly how I thought this would play out. Sounds like Doke learned a few things and has improved over the Summer. Looking forward to seeing that in the upcoming season.
Reid Travis is withdrawing from the draft and will be grad transfer. Sounds like he is heading to Kentucky. Enormous addition for them. He would have been first team all PAC 12 next year.
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Matt Tait with a very early preliminary list of names for Zengers replacement. Nothing too flashy on this list.
SouthernHawk said:
Don’t count on De Sousa. From all the reporting he won’t be available—either it will be uncertain if he is clear to play or he will have moved on. I would love for him be available but the odds seem very much against it being so.
If he was going to move on wouldn't he had done so by now?
Douglas Girod anounced today the he has fired AD Sheahon Zenger.
JRE is a absolute must get. Need to lock him up now!
So disappointed in the Sixers in this series. Have absolutely laid a egg. Simmons has been garbage.
JayHawkFanToo said:
It was posted in KU forums including this one that Moore was playing great and was practically “unguardable” in practice. I don’t recall who posted it by maybe that poster can chime in?
That was me that said that about Moore. I heard it from someone that gets to watch practice quite often and is close to the program....
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Vick will probably get his shot as a lot of big names are declining invites which is normal.
@BShark yea that’s the quote I saw. Not good at all.
As far as the Dad I assume he didn’t come out and eliminate KU because then there would be no suspense if there really was any today. I agree it’s a bad look. Obviously the family / Romeo like some attention. So it makes sense to go the Trae Young route.
@BShark the FBI “scandal” is going to be a hurdle for Self and staff. The quote I saw was his Dad basically saying having the schools name associated with the FBI case eliminated them.
@Gorilla72 True story. I was not really expecting much from Moore next year so when I was told this I was quite encouraged.
I actually heard that Moore was really good in practice last year and surprised the staff quite a bit. At some points he was "unguardable".
@JayHawkFanToo You think Self ever flies commercial?! Come on now. He has multiple jets at his disposal. In his contract he gets up to so many hours for personal use a year.
This decision is not going to be a surprise to everyone.
@FarmerJayhawk so from you are hearing the decision was made yesterday for IU? Done deal?
Very surprised as well. Johnathan Givony doesn’t even have Doke in his top 100 prospect list. I believe he has Billy at 86.
Also Vick is a alternate so if some guys decline the invite which happens by top prospects he could get to go.
Good for him. I thought he would go in the 3rd round, but I have no doubt he will be a productive NFL player. He was a joy to watch one of the few in his time at KU.
Is a used Dodge Charger a nice car??